On 5, Jan2014, at 23:48 , Adam Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've steered you the wrong way altogether!

No Problem
> 
>> I have a TP-Link 8 port switch ( http://tinyurl.com/m2rbcdt ) that connects 
>> the 3 LANs and the 3 WANs to the pfSense Box.
>> But I’m not sure anymore what help it is.
>> I had the LANs coming in on their own physical NICs, but couldn’t get them 
>> together for QoS neither.
>> I can get them all in their own queue for shaping, but that way I could only 
>> limit each LAN individually not taking into account what the other one needs.
> 
> You've got everything you need.
> 
> The only place you can usefully control QoS in your environment is on the 
> *UP*link to your ADSL provider.  If you have NICs dedicated to each subnet, 
> then you're already at 1Gbps dedicated to each subnet.  Not really, because 
> pfSense on that hardware can't do 1Gbps, but at least ethernet isn't the 
> bottleneck.
> 
> By controlling upstream bandwidth, you can have *some* effect on downstream 
> bandwidth.  By ensuring that no single upstream link is 100% congested, you 
> will almost certainly improve response time and latency.
> 
I thought that is some how what the pfSense Shaper does, I imagined that by 
keeping responses of certain connections back, it would also somehow limit the 
downstream or some similar black magic ;-)

> There will be absolutely no benefit to putting a traffic-shaping policy on 
> inbound traffic; I can explain the logic behind this statement if it's not 
> obvious, but in short: the data has already arrived at the DSL modem (and 
> thereby filled up the pipe) long before pfSense can touch it.

No black magic at all so? 
Not even to limit p2p traffic and prefer pure http/https ?

Or give one LAN more bandwidth when needed while more to the other LAN if the 
first one doesn’t need it?

> I believe what you need is a standard multi-WAN setup.  No VLANs or trunking 
> are needed at all in your situation.  You will need to apply a traffic 
> shaping policy on all three WAN connections; you can apply the identical 
> policy on all, or different policies on each. If you're using pfSense's 
> multi-WAN feature with equal weights, I recommend placing the same traffic 
> policies on all three lines.
> 
Up and running

> However, bundling the three DSL connections together this way won't produce 
> the results you expect; pfSense doesn't magically bond uplinks and downlinks 
> together - no standard router or firewall really can do a good job of that.  
> pfSense does a decent job of load-balancing, but the end results are 
> imperfect and do not magically reflect a 3x increase in usable bandwidth.

You’d be surprised how good of a Job it does. When the connections are good, 
less other Bolivians surfing the web, and each DSL line nearly reaches it’s 
(contracted) limit, the Client WiFi nearly suck`s down the sum of the 3 DSL 
bandwidth, that is according to pfSense’s traffic graphs :-)

> 
> You might want to have a look at Mushroom's "Truffle" router.  Yes, I'm 
> serious, that's the real name of the product.  It might be useful to you, or 
> it might not.  Latency from Bolivia might suck if you use their cloud service 
> on the far end; you might still have to find somewhere to host the server 
> side to get the most out of the "bonding" mode they offer.
> 
I’ll look into this.

Thanks

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