>> _and system GPIOs_ :-)
>
> Yup, firmware should set up gpios, to make initial kernel boot.
> After that, kernel can and should manage GPIOs.

Sure.  But only the GPIOs it _does_ need to toggle, not the ones
that have to be fixed to a certain value (like everything that is
described in the par_io nodes now).

Devices that really _use_ some GPIO, should use some generic GPIO
binding in the device tree, and the generic GPIO subsystem in the
kernel.

> Few examples.

[some good examples of why GPIOs can be useful at runtime snipped]

> At the same time I agree: doing gpio setup in the board file isn't a
> great solution, just like doing it in the device tree. But hard-code
> gpio setup in the firmware is much worse and short-sighted approach.

It is the correct solution for 99.99% of GPIOs: every GPIO needs to
either be set to some fixed configuration (and value), dictated by
the board design; or at least it needs to be initialised to something
that results in a stable system ;-)


Segher

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