On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Felipe Balbi <ba...@kernel.org> wrote:
> "Rafael J. Wysocki" <raf...@kernel.org> writes:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Felipe Balbi <ba...@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Tony Lindgren <t...@atomide.com> writes:
>>>> * Felipe Balbi <ba...@kernel.org> [180619 01:23]:
>>>>> This is a direct consequence of not paying attention to the order of
>>>>> things. If driver were to assume that pm_domain->activate() would do the
>>>>> right thing for the device -- meaning that probe would run with an
>>>>> active device --, then we wouldn't need that pm_runtime_get() call on
>>>>> probe at all. Rather we would follow the sequence:
>>>>>
>>>>>      pm_runtime_forbid()
>>
>> Why do you need the _forbid() thing?
>>
>> Does the default user space control setting need to be changed?
>
> wouldn't that race with a udev rule writing "auto" power/control as soon
> as device is added?

Why would it?

>>>>> (If you need to know why the pm_runtime_put_noidle(), remember that
>>>>> pm_runtime_set_active() increments the usage counter, so
>>>>> pm_runtime_put_noidle is basically allowing pm_runtime to happen as soon
>>>>> as userspace writes "auto" to /sys/..../power/control)
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if we could also remove the need for drivers to call
>>>> pm_runtime_putnoidle() at the end of the probe? If we had
>>>> pm_runtime_init_enabled() implemented.
>>>
>>> probably not. We want to block runtime pm during probe, until the device
>>> is fully initialized, the only way to do that is to increment rpm usage
>>> counter.
>>
>> That or enable it only at the end.  But I guess you want to
>> runtime-resume it earlier, don't you?
>
> well, if arch implements pm_domain->activate() and guarantees that
> device is already running, with clocks stable during probe, then
> enabling runtime pm at the end is probably the best idea.

But if you call pm_runtime_set_active() at any point, you're assuming
that the device is active anyway.
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