On 19.11.25 13:13, Qi Zheng wrote:


On 11/19/25 7:35 PM, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
On 19.11.25 12:02, Qi Zheng wrote:
Hi David,

On 11/19/25 6:19 PM, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
On 18.11.25 13:02, Qi Zheng wrote:


On 11/18/25 12:57 AM, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
On 14.11.25 12:11, Qi Zheng wrote:
From: Qi Zheng <[email protected]>

Subject: s/&&/&/

will do.



Make PT_RECLAIM depend on MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE so that
PT_RECLAIM
can
be enabled by default on all architectures that support
MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE.

Considering that a large number of PTE page table pages (such as
100GB+)
can only be caused on a 64-bit system, let PT_RECLAIM also depend on
64BIT.

Signed-off-by: Qi Zheng <[email protected]>
---
     arch/x86/Kconfig | 1 -
     mm/Kconfig       | 6 +-----
     2 files changed, 1 insertion(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
index eac2e86056902..96bff81fd4787 100644
--- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
@@ -330,7 +330,6 @@ config X86
         select FUNCTION_ALIGNMENT_4B
         imply IMA_SECURE_AND_OR_TRUSTED_BOOT    if EFI
         select HAVE_DYNAMIC_FTRACE_NO_PATCHABLE
-    select ARCH_SUPPORTS_PT_RECLAIM        if X86_64
         select ARCH_SUPPORTS_SCHED_SMT        if SMP
         select SCHED_SMT            if SMP
         select ARCH_SUPPORTS_SCHED_CLUSTER    if SMP
diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
index a5a90b169435d..e795fbd69e50c 100644
--- a/mm/Kconfig
+++ b/mm/Kconfig
@@ -1440,14 +1440,10 @@ config ARCH_HAS_USER_SHADOW_STACK
           The architecture has hardware support for userspace shadow
call
               stacks (eg, x86 CET, arm64 GCS or RISC-V Zicfiss).
-config ARCH_SUPPORTS_PT_RECLAIM
-    def_bool n
-
     config PT_RECLAIM
         bool "reclaim empty user page table pages"
         default y
-    depends on ARCH_SUPPORTS_PT_RECLAIM && MMU && SMP
-    select MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE
+    depends on MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE && MMU && SMP && 64BIT

Who would we have MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE without MMU? (can we drop
the MMU part)

OK.


Why do we care about SMP in the first place? (can we frop SMP)

OK.


But I also wonder why we need "MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE && 64BIT":

Would it be harmful on 32bit (sure, we might not reclaim as much, but
still there is memory to be reclaimed?)?

This is also fine on 32bit, but the benefits are not significant, So I
chose to enable it only on 64-bit.

Right. Address space is smaller, but also memory is smaller. Not that I
think we strictly *must* to support 32bit, I merely wonder why we
wouldn't just enable it here.

OTOH, if there is a good reason we cannot enable it, we can definitely
just keep it 64bit only.

The only difficulty is this:



I actually tried enabling MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE on all
architectures, and apart from sparc32 being a bit troublesome (because
it uses mm->page_table_lock for synchronization within
__pte_free_tlb()), the modifications were relatively simple.

in sparc32:

void pte_free(struct mm_struct *mm, pgtable_t ptep)
{
           struct page *page;

           page = pfn_to_page(__nocache_pa((unsigned long)ptep) >>
PAGE_SHIFT);
           spin_lock(&mm->page_table_lock);
           if (page_ref_dec_return(page) == 1)
                   pagetable_dtor(page_ptdesc(page));
           spin_unlock(&mm->page_table_lock);

           srmmu_free_nocache(ptep, SRMMU_PTE_TABLE_SIZE);
}

#define __pte_free_tlb(tlb, pte, addr)  pte_free((tlb)->mm, pte)

To enable MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE on sparc32, we need to implement
__tlb_remove_table(), and call the pte_free() above in
__tlb_remove_table().

However, the __tlb_remove_table() does not have an mm parameter:

void __tlb_remove_table(void *_table)

so we need to use another lock instead of mm->page_table_lock.

I have already sent the v2 [1], and perhaps after that I can enable
PT_RECLAIM on all 32-bit architectures as well.


I guess if we just make it depend on MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE that will
be fine.

[1].
https://lore.kernel.org/all/
[email protected]/



If all 64BIT support MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE (as you previously
state), why can't we only check for 64BIT?

OK, will do.

This was also more of a question for discussion:

Would it make sense to have

config PT_RECLAIM
       def_bool y
       depends on MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE

make sense.


(a) Would we want to make it configurable (why?)

No, it was just out of caution before.

(b) Do we really care about SMP (why?)

No. Simply because the following situation is impossible to occur:

pte_offset_map
traversing the PTE page table

<preemption or hardirq>

call madvise(MADV_DONTNEED)

so there's no need to free PTE page via RCU.

(c) Do we want to limit to 64bit (why?)

No, just because the profit is greater at 64-BIT.

I was briefly wondering if on 32bit (but maybe also on 64bit with
configurable user page table levels?) we could have the scenario that we
only have two page table levels.

So reclaiming the PMD level (corresponding to the highest level) would

reclaiming the PMD level? The PT_RECLAIM only reclaim PTE pages, not PMD
pages, am I misunderstanding something?

Sorry, I looked too much into PMD table sharing the last days :D

You're right, it would work in any case even with only 2 levels of apge tables.

--
Cheers

David

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