On 08/10/2017 09:15 PM, Don Brace wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hannes Reinecke [mailto:h...@suse.de]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:11 AM
>> To: James Bottomley <james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com>;
>> Christoph Hellwig <h...@lst.de>
>> Cc: Don Brace <don.br...@microsemi.com>; Martin K. Petersen
>> <martin.peter...@oracle.com>; Meelis Roos <mr...@linux.ee>; linux-
>> s...@vger.kernel.org
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/6] hpsa: support legacy boards
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>> On 08/10/2017 04:06 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2017-08-10 at 09:09 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> No device support in Linux is unsupported, sorry.  I think we're
>>>> getting into the corporate bullshit game a little too much here.
>>>
>>> I think there are two different definitions of supported here.  To us,
>>> any device to which the driver attaches is "supported".  However, if
>>> it's never been tested before it may not work very well.  In the Linux
>>> way, we'll try to fix the bugs when they're reported and in that sense
>>> we support the device until nothing in the kernel attaches to its ids
>>> anymore.
>>>
>>> In the corporate world "supported" means we'll sell you a contract
>>> giving you certain rights to report bugs and have us fix them.  There
>>> are definite reasons why corporations only support a small range of new
>>> devices, even though devices not on this list may still be attached to
>>> by the driver and thus we (Linux Community) would try to fix the bug
>>> reports for.
>>>
>>> I think what you're basically asking for is a different name for the
>>> flag, which is fine?  how about 'legacy' instead?
>>>
>> Sure, no problem with that.
>>
>> Don?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hannes
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>> Dr. Hannes Reinecke                Teamlead Storage & Networking
>> h...@suse.de                                   +49 911 74053 688
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> 
> Ok, but to clarify...
>  * Will the cciss driver be removed when these patches are applied? Otherwise
>     what will prevent the cciss driver from loading over these devices?
>     i.e. how often will users need to be reminded to add 
> cciss.cciss_allow_hpsa flag?
> 
> 
The idea is to remove the cciss driver completely once these changes are
in. Preferably with the same patchset to avoid any timing issues.

Cheers,

Hannes
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Dr. Hannes Reinecke                Teamlead Storage & Networking
h...@suse.de                                   +49 911 74053 688
SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg
GF: F. Imendörffer, J. Smithard, J. Guild, D. Upmanyu, G. Norton
HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)

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