On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Andy Lutomirski <l...@amacapital.net> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Peter Zijlstra <pet...@infradead.org> wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 04:22:59PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
 Bad news: this patch is incorrect, I think.  Take a look at
 update_rq_clock -- it does fancy things involving irq time and
 paravirt steal time.  So this patch could result in extremely
 non-monotonic results.

 Yeah, I'm not sure how (and if) we could make all that work :/

I obviously can't comment on what Facebook needs, but if I were
rigging something up to profile my own code*, I'd want a count of
elapsed time, including user, system, and probably interrupt as well.
I would probably not want to count time during which I'm not
scheduled, and I would also probably not want to count steal time.
The latter makes any implementation kind of nasty.

The API presumably doesn't need to be any particular clock id for
clock_gettime, and it may not even need to be clock_gettime at all.

Is perf self-monitoring good enough for this?  If not, can we make it
good enough?

* I do this today using CLOCK_MONOTONIC

The clock_gettime calls are used for a wide variety of things, but usually they are trying to instrument how much CPU the application is using. So for example with the HHVM interpreter they have a ratio of the number of hhvm instructions they were able to execute in N seconds of cputime. This gets used to optimize the HHVM implementation and can be used as a push blocking counter (code can't go in if it makes it slower).

Wall time isn't a great representation of this because it includes factors that might be outside a given HHVM patch, but it sounds like we're saying almost the same thing.

I'm not familiar with the perf self monitoring?

-chris




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