On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:38:08 -0800, Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 04:19:25PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > (Adds lots of cc's. I trust that's OK). > > > > Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > No, I think Jens wants all of the distributions to fix it. I have > > > filed a bug with Fedora on it. > > > > > > Something changed in the timing for loading drivers during boot. You > > > used to be able to do: > > > modprobe ata_piix > > > mount /dev/sda1 > > You can't do that on any udev based system reliably. That has _never_ > been true. You might just have been getting lucky in the past. >
mkinitrd in Fedora needs to be modified to wait for the device. Maybe something like a nash command like wait /dev/sda1. > > > Now you have to do this: > > > modprobe ata_piix > > > sleep 1 > > > mount /dev/sda1 > > That's still racy. Rely on the /etc/dev.d/ notifier to be able to tell > you when you can mount your device, that is what it is there for. > > This is a udev issue, not a kernel issue, there's nothing we can do in > the kernel about it (well, except for the obvious thing of giving udev > lots of hints and making it easier for it to work properly and faster, > which we have been doing over the past months.) > > > > I suspect the problem is that udev doesn't get a chance to run anymore. > > > The sleep 1 allows it to run and it creates /dev/sda1. > > > Build ata_piix in and the problem goes away too. > > > > > > Jens is right that this is a user space issue, but how many people are > > > going to find this out the hard way when their root drives stop > > > mounting. Since no one is complaining I have to assume that most > > > kernel developers have their root device drivers built into the > > > kernel. I was loading mine as a module since for a long time Redhat > > > was not shipping kernels with SATA built in. > > > > I don't agree that this is a userspace issue. It's just not sane for a > > driver to be in an unusable state for an arbitrary length of time after > > modprobe returns. > > It is a userspace issue. If you have a static /dev there are no > problems, right? If you use udev, you need to wait for the device node > to show up, it will not be there right after modprobe returns. > > thanks, > > greg k-h > -- Jon Smirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/