On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 06:40:14PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > Agreed, that's a very good point. > > Also, consider the following holistic argument, what is easier to > achieve, when looking at an oops and not seeing the bug: > > - if only I had more information > - if only I had less information > > we cannot put in information that we cut out, but it's not > particularly hard to skip overly verbose information in most cases. > > Yes, there's a line to be drawn with verbosity: scroll-off is a > concern when the oops does not make it to a log file. > > So I don't really know.
So it really stinks its so hard to debug laptops, and it doesn't help the ehci debug dongle costs an arm and a leg. Hopefully the EFI pstore thing will work out, but I've already heard that can wear out very quickly and render your machine a brick :-( Me, I simply refuse to work on machines if they don't have a serial line, but in general that's not a tenable position I suppose :/
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