On Wednesday 31 of July 2013 17:07:19 Richard Cochran wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:59:59PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > On Wednesday 31 of July 2013 12:37:37 Maxime Bizon wrote: > > > Board files are C code anyone has the skill to edit/understand/refactor. > > > Moving to DT and keep them in tree tightly coupled with the kernel > > > version just adds another layer of indirection for *no purpose*. > > +1 > > That is exactly what I tried to say.
I agree with you to some extent. Don't be so extreme though. As I already said, this is not entirely "no purpose", as there are more benefits of having device tree than just separation from kernel tree. > > > Linus started the whole thing some years ago by refusing to pull ARM > > > tree [1]. Reread his post, what he wants is clearly b). > > > > > > Going a) does not solve any problem. You are just moving churn to > > > somewhere else. We had board files churn, then defconfigs churn, DTS > > > files (and associated drivers) will be next. > > And at this rate, we are headed for another Linus ultimatum, sooner or > later. (see end of the message) > > > DT is self inflicted pain. It has to be for the greater good. > > > > It has several benefits over board files that I mentioned above, possible > > without fully separating them from kernel tree. > > Every time a criticism is voiced about DT, the DT people stick their > fingers in their ears and say, "NAH, NAH, NAH, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" I won't comment this... > WRT to DT-as-platform-device, we would rather stick with the C code, > please. Just pushing the configuration tables into an external form > does not simplify the problem. In fact, it creates new problems by > inviting the possibility of a bootloader/DT/kernel mismatch. Care to stop ignoring my points other than those defending ideas (nowhere stated as good or bad) from extreme opinions? I said it many, many times, that a) and b) I proposed are just two extremes. It is unlikely that an extreme solution will be the best option to choose. I am strongly for something in the middle, just like I wrote in several of my previous replies. This is something that should be commented, not those extreme options. Best regards, Tomasz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/