On Wed, 9 May 2001, Pekka Savola wrote:

> To: Matthew Geier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On Wed, 9 May 2001, Matthew Geier wrote:

> > > Help is needed to contact these site owners and politely using a standard
> > > email ask them that their site was non-conformant.

[snip]

> >
> >
> >  I tried to get my local bank to fix their internet banking service about a
> > month ago. I ran into a 'brick wall'. They only support Windows and MacOS,
> > since neither currently implement ECN, they don't have a problem :-(

[snip]
> 
> There are a couple of ways to deal with these:
> 
> Try to get in touch with someone who is a network admin; 

[snip]

In most cases, good luck.  Though as you pointed out, checking RIPE might
help.

I mentioned in here (kernel list) about dogpile.com not supporting
it.  I've tried to contact their administrators with no luck.

> .. Let's not start a huge thread (especially with this big Cc: list; there
> should be a smaller forum to discuss this if necessary) on this though.


Agreed.  For now ECN has been disabled here.  I got tired of so many sites
not supporting it that I gave up.  Maybe by 2.8.x kernels it will be worth
turning back on.  Thats not to say however that I don't like what the ECN
people are trying to do, rather its causing me more grief with it on, then
the grief I get with it off.


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