On 02/03/13 16:28, Linus Torvalds wrote: > You are the > architecture maintainer, and your job is not integration, it's to make > sure that *your* work is as stable and unsurprising as possible.
Right, make sense. This is what it comes down to. > See why I hate rebasing and back-merges so much? Yes. To be clear I wasn't keen on the idea of rebasing the tree (which is why I had fixes applied on top of it instead of keeping rebasing it), but I was missing your point about not being my job to do integration so I wasn't sure what other alternative to back-merges there was. > Right now, I think your best option is to rebase just your own commits > on top of v3.8, and then ask me to pull the result, with explanations > of what the conflicts will be. And while I much prefer explanations > (and also a general over-view, just so that I can put it in the commit > message), I actually even prefer unexplained merge conflicts that I > have to resolve over the "I did a back-merge at some random point > because I was trying to be helpful, or because I wanted to use a new > and untested feature that isn't even in a release kernel yet". Okay, > But I do *not* take new trees that do bad things. If I take a new > architecture, I want to feel like I'm not just getting the > architecture, but I'm also getting a maintainer that knows about > keeping his history clean and not mixing with the independent work > other people did, or messing up other people by rebasing public > commits etc. I actually take slightly obsessive pride in trying to have a clean history where every commit works so that bisection doesn't break, which is probably the problem here. I was trying too hard to make it just work when everything is integrated (e.g. trying to make linux-next just work, which now seems like a conflicting goal) instead of helping you do that. Obviously I'll have to do better. Thanks James -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/