On Wednesday 06 February 2008 10:37:52 Andrew Morton wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:48:10 +1100 > > Rusty Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's a no-brainer. > > > > For non-developers, WARN_ON is a noop. > > Oh.. Rusty. The mailing list and bugzilla are *full* of WARN_ON reports > from testers. Your statement is empirically wrong.
My apologies. I had extrapolated from my own behaviour: I don't notice WARN_ON unless something else goes wrong to make me look in the logs. > > BUG_ON() will make us fix it in return for short-term pain. > > Pain to our users and testers. People upon whom we are very dependent and > to whom we are hugely indebted. People who I have to spend a lot of time > defending from the likes of you! I think you misunderstand. I proposed that we audit all the code before such a change. We shouldn't do *anything* until we can estimate the impact this change will have. Our users deserve better than "I don't know if this will break anything so I used WARN_ON". They deserve "we have confidence that this change won't break any existing code". Now, if an audit is impractical or unreliable, we are better off with a WARN_ON. But it is still an admission of ignorance. Cheers, Rusty. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/