On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 08:31:33PM +0000, Shenwei Wang wrote:
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> > Subject: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v8 3/4] gpio: rpmsg: add generic rpmsg GPIO driver
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> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 05:54:00PM +0000, Shenwei Wang wrote:
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> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bjorn Andersson <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2026 9:53 AM
> > > > To: Shenwei Wang <[email protected]>
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> > > > Subject: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v8 3/4] gpio: rpmsg: add generic rpmsg
> > > > GPIO driver On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 10:43:06PM +0000, Shenwei Wang
> > wrote:
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> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Andrew Lunn <[email protected]>
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> > > > > > To: Shenwei Wang <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Cc: Mathieu Poirier <[email protected]>; Bjorn
> > > > > > Andersson <[email protected]>; Arnaud POULIQUEN
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> > > > > > Jonathan Corbet <[email protected]>; Rob Herring <[email protected]>;
> > > > > > Krzysztof Kozlowski <[email protected]>; Conor Dooley
> > > > > > <[email protected]>; Frank Li <[email protected]>; Sascha Hauer
> > > > > > <[email protected]>; Shuah Khan
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> > > > > > dl-linux-imx <linux- [email protected]>; Bartosz Golaszewski
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> > > > > > Subject: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v8 3/4] gpio: rpmsg: add generic rpmsg
> > > > > > GPIO driver
> > > > > > > Please explain how you would design your generic rpmsg-gpio
> > > > > > > driver which is derived From gpio-virtio?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have already seen the virtio commands are pretty much
> > > > > > identical to what i suggested.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You could just replace virtqueue_add_sgs() with rpmsg_sendto()
> > > > > > and reimplement
> > > > > > virtio_gpio_request_vq() to be the callback registered with
> > > > rpmsg_create_ept().
> > > > > > The rest of basic GPIO handling should not need any changes at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Creating endpoints and calling rpmsg_sendto() is only a small part
> > > > > of the picture. You also need to manage the service announcement
> > > > > from the remote side and handle asynchronous notification
> > > > > messages. That entire flow is already implemented in the existing
> > virtio_rpmsg_bus driver.
> > > > > Re‑implementing those pieces just to mimic gpio‑virtio over RPMSG
> > > > > would
> > > > essentially mean reinventing the wheel without any real benefit.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can absolutely see a benefit to this, there are multiple different
> > > > rpmsg backends supported in Linux, so a gpio-rpmsg driver could be used 
> > > > by
> > any one of them.
> > > >
> > > > I don't see this to be a case of "reinventing the wheel". Instead we
> > > > copy what looks to be a very functional wheel and make it fit rpmsg.
> > > > This will result in some "duplication", but rpmsg already provide
> > > > the life cycle management and has a clean send/callback interface,
> > > > so there shouldn't be any inventing...
> > > >
> > >
> > > Interesting — could you walk me through how you’d structure the driver
> > > with the new proposal? I’d like to see how you would layer it 
> > > conceptually.
> > >
> > > The current RPMSG solution:
> > >
> > >      On Remoteprc                      On Linux
> > > GPIOs -> RPMSG -> VIRTIO == VIRTIO -> RPMSG -> GPIO-RPMSG drivers
> > >
> > > The VIRTIO solution:
> > >
> > >      On Remoteprc                     On Linux
> > >           GPIO -> VIRTIO == VIRTIO -> GPIO-VIRTIO driver
> > >
> > > Your proposal:
> > >
> > >      On Remoteprc                     On Linux
> > > GPIOs -> RPMSG -> VIRTIO == VIRTIO -> ???
> > 
> > What I'm suggesting is the following:
> > 
> > GPIOs -> RPMSG -> VIRTIO == VIRTIO -> RPMSG -> GPIO-RPMSG
> >        ^                                    ^
> >        \-----+------------------------------/
> >              |
> >              |
> > With this interface on being directly derived from the existing protocol 
> > (and likely
> > the implementation as well) using gpio-virtio.
> > 
> > You can have multiple "GPIOs" (presumably a "bank" each) instances and that
> > will be reflected in having multiple "GPIO-RPMSG" instances.
> > 
> > I haven't made any attempts at implementing this, but it looks very similar 
> > to
> > gpio-virtio in concept and it looks very similar to the exiting RPMSG tty 
> > in the
> > sense of being a generic implementation.
> > 
> > To reach something functional on the Linux side it seems to be a matter of 
> > taking
> > the gpio-virtio driver, register a rpmsg_driver instead, change 
> > _virtio_gpio_req()
> > to use rpmsg_send(), and perform the actions of virtio_gpio_event_vq() in 
> > the
> > rpmsg_driver callback function.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the explanation. If I’m understanding correctly, what you’re 
> suggesting is 
> essentially a driver that merges the roles of a virtio_driver and an 
> rpmsg_driver into a 
> single source file. There may be opportunities for a few function reuse, but 
> overall it 
> would still result in a fairly distinct codebase.
> 

Most of the non-boilerplate code in gpio-virtio would be impacted by
differences between rpmsg and virtio. So combining the two
implementations in a single source file would add complexity to an
otherwise straightforward driver, only with trivial parts reused.

My expectation is that it will be better to just have two separate
drivers - but reuse all the design-work done in the gpio-virtio.

Regards,
Bjorn

> Thanks,
> Shenwei
> 
> > Regards,
> > Bjorn
> > 
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Shenwei
> > >
> > > > Similarly, I'm guessing that there's a firmware-side implementation
> > > > of virtio-gpio in Zephyr, it should be straightforward to transplant 
> > > > this to the
> > rpmsg interface.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bjorn
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Shenwei
> > > > >
> > > > > > Interrupt support does however need some changes. The
> > > > > > virtio_gpio_request_vq() replacement would need to see if the
> > > > > > received message indicates an interrupt and call the equivalent
> > > > > > of virtio_gpio_event_vq(), since rpmsg does not have a separate
> > > > > > mechanism to
> > > > deliver interrupts, unlike rpmsg.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At a guess, 90% of the code would stay the same?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Andrew

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