Hi Catalin,

> On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 05:01:33PM +0000, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> > > Why not keep uaccess_enable_privileged() in
> > > arch_futex_atomic_op_inuser() and cmpxchg for all cases and make it a
> > > no-op if FEAT_LSUI is implemented together with FEAT_PAN?
> >
> > This is because I had a assumption FEAT_PAN must be present
> > when FEAT_LSUI is presented and this was not considering the virtualisation 
> > case.
> > and  FEAT_PAN is present uaccess_ttbr0_enable() becomes nop and
> > following feedback you gave - 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/
> > and the reason you mention last, It doesn't need to call mte_enable_tco().
> >
> > That's why I thought it doesn't need to call uaccess_enable_privileged().
> >
> > But for a compatibility with SW_PAN, I think we can put only
> > uaccess_ttbr0_enable() in arch_futex_atomic_op_inuser() and cmpxchg simply
> > instead of adding a new APIs uaccess_enable_futex() and
> > by doing this I think has_lsui() can be removed with its WRAN.
>
> Yes, I think you can use uaccess_ttbr0_enable() when we take the
> FEAT_LSUI path. What I meant above was for uaccess_enable_privileged()
> to avoid PAN disabling if we have FEAT_LSUI as we know all cases would
> be executed with user privileges.
>
> Either way, we don't need a new uaccess_enable_futex().

Yes. But like raw_copy_from/to_user() where use ldtr*/sttr*
when MOPS isn't enabled, It seems better to use uaccess_ttbr0_enable()
instead of making special handling for LSUI in uaccess_enable_privileged().

This seems more consistent since ldtr*/sttr* are similar function of
LSUI (doesn't disable PAN) and doesn't enable mto.

>
> > > BTW, with the removal of uaccess_enable_privileged(), we now get MTE tag
> > > checks for the futex operations. I think that's good as it matches the
> > > other uaccess ops, though it's a slight ABI change. If we want to
> > > preserve the old behaviour, we definitely need
> > > uaccess_enable_privileged() that only does mte_enable_tco().
> >
> > I think we don't need to preserve the old behaviour. so we can skip
> > mte_enable_tco() in case of FEAT_LSUI is presented.
>
> Just spell it out in the commit log that we have a slight ABI change. I
> don't think we'll have a problem but it needs at least checking with
> some user-space (libc, Android) people.

I see. Thanks!

>
> --
> Catalin

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Sincerely,
Yeoreum Yun

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