On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 3:03 PM Vlastimil Babka <vba...@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On 7/9/25 16:43, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 1:57 AM Vlastimil Babka <vba...@suse.cz> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/8/25 01:10, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> >> >>> +     rcu_read_unlock();
> >> >>> +     vma = lock_vma_under_mmap_lock(mm, iter, address);
> >> >>> +     rcu_read_lock();
> >> >> OK I guess we hold the RCU lock the whole time as we traverse except 
> >> >> when
> >> >> we lock under mmap lock.
> >> > Correct.
> >>
> >> I wonder if it's really necessary? Can't it be done just inside
> >> lock_next_vma()? It would also avoid the unlock/lock dance quoted above.
> >>
> >> Even if we later manage to extend this approach to smaps and employ rcu
> >> locking to traverse the page tables, I'd think it's best to separate and
> >> fine-grain the rcu lock usage for vma iterator and page tables, if only to
> >> avoid too long time under the lock.
> >
> > I thought we would need to be in the same rcu read section while
> > traversing the maple tree using vma_next() but now looking at it,
> > maybe we can indeed enter only while finding and locking the next
> > vma...
> > Liam, would that work? I see struct ma_state containing a node field.
> > Can it be freed from under us if we find a vma, exit rcu read section
> > then re-enter rcu and use the same iterator to find the next vma?
>
> If the rcu protection needs to be contigous, and patch 8 avoids the issue by
> always doing vma_iter_init() after rcu_read_lock() (but does it really avoid
> the issue or is it why we see the syzbot reports?) then I guess in the code
> quoted above we also need a vma_iter_init() after the rcu_read_lock(),
> because although the iterator was used briefly under mmap_lock protection,
> that was then unlocked and there can be a race before the rcu_read_lock().

Quite true. So, let's wait for Liam's confirmation and based on his
answer I'll change the patch by either reducing the rcu read section
or adding the missing vma_iter_init() after we switch to mmap_lock.

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