On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 03:49:24PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > Le Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 11:49:49AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney a écrit : > > The get_state_synchronize_rcu_full() and poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() > > functions use the root rcu_node structure's ->gp_seq field to detect > > the beginnings and ends of grace periods, respectively. This choice is > > necessary for the poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() function because > > (give or take counter wrap), the following sequence is guaranteed not > > to trigger: > > > > get_state_synchronize_rcu_full(&rgos); > > synchronize_rcu(); > > WARN_ON_ONCE(!poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full(&rgos)); > > > > The RCU callbacks that awaken synchronize_rcu() instances are > > guaranteed not to be invoked before the root rcu_node structure's > > ->gp_seq field is updated to indicate the end of the grace period. > > However, these callbacks might start being invoked immediately > > thereafter, in particular, before rcu_state.gp_seq has been updated. > > Therefore, poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() must refer to the > > root rcu_node structure's ->gp_seq field. Because this field is > > updated under this structure's ->lock, any code following a call to > > poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() will be fully ordered after the > > full grace-period computation, as is required by RCU's memory-ordering > > semantics. > > > > By symmetry, the get_state_synchronize_rcu_full() function should also > > use this same root rcu_node structure's ->gp_seq field. But it turns out > > that symmetry is profoundly (though extremely infrequently) destructive > > in this case. To see this, consider the following sequence of events: > > > > 1. CPU 0 starts a new grace period, and updates rcu_state.gp_seq > > accordingly. > > > > 2. As its first step of grace-period initialization, CPU 0 examines > > the current CPU hotplug state and decides that it need not wait > > for CPU 1, which is currently offline. > > > > 3. CPU 1 comes online, and updates its state. But this does not > > affect the current grace period, but rather the one after that. > > After all, CPU 1 was offline when the current grace period > > started, so all pre-existing RCU readers on CPU 1 must have > > completed or been preempted before it last went offline. > > The current grace period therefore has nothing it needs to wait > > for on CPU 1. > > > > 4. CPU 1 switches to an rcutorture kthread which is running > > rcutorture's rcu_torture_reader() function, which starts a new > > RCU reader. > > > > 5. CPU 2 is running rcutorture's rcu_torture_writer() function > > and collects a new polled grace-period "cookie" using > > get_state_synchronize_rcu_full(). Because the newly started > > grace period has not completed initialization, the root rcu_node > > structure's ->gp_seq field has not yet been updated to indicate > > that this new grace period has already started. > > > > This cookie is therefore set up for the end of the current grace > > period (rather than the end of the following grace period). > > > > 6. CPU 0 finishes grace-period initialization. > > > > 7. If CPU 1’s rcutorture reader is preempted, it will be added to > > the ->blkd_tasks list, but because CPU 1’s ->qsmask bit is not > > set in CPU 1's leaf rcu_node structure, the ->gp_tasks pointer > > will not be updated. Thus, this grace period will not wait on > > it. Which is only fair, given that the CPU did not come online > > until after the grace period officially started. > > > > 8. CPUs 0 and 2 then detect the new grace period and then report > > a quiescent state to the RCU core. > > > > 9. Because CPU 1 was offline at the start of the current grace > > period, CPUs 0 and 2 are the only CPUs that this grace period > > needs to wait on. So the grace period ends and post-grace-period > > cleanup starts. In particular, the root rcu_node structure's > > ->gp_seq field is updated to indicate that this grace period > > has now ended. > > > > 10. CPU 2 continues running rcu_torture_writer() and sees that, > > from the viewpoint of the root rcu_node structure consulted by > > the poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() function, the grace period > > has ended. It therefore updates state accordingly. > > > > 11. CPU 1 is still running the same RCU reader, which notices this > > update and thus complains about the too-short grace period. > > I think I get the race but I must confess I'm not very familiar with how this > all materialize on CPU 2's rcu_torture_writer() and CPU 1's > rcu_torture_reader(). > > Basically this could trigger on CPU 1 with just doing the following, right? > > rcu_read_lock() > get_state_synchronize_rcu_full(&rgos); > WARN_ON_ONCE(poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full(&rgos)) > rcu_read_unlock()
CPU 1 would do rcu_read_lock()/checks/rcu_read_unlock() as the reader, and CPU 2 would do get_state_synchronize_rcu_full(), later poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full(), which would (erroneously) indicate a completed grace period, so it would update the state, triggering CPU 1's checks. > > The fix is for the get_state_synchronize_rcu_full() function to use > > rcu_state.gp_seq instead of the the root rcu_node structure's ->gp_seq > > field. With this change in place, if step 5's cookie indicates that the > > grace period has not yet started, then any prior code executed by CPU 2 > > must have happened before CPU 1 came online. This will in turn prevent > > CPU 1's code in steps 3 and 11 from spanning CPU 2's grace-period wait, > > thus preventing CPU 1 from being subjected to a too-short grace period. > > > > This commit therefore makes this change. Note that there is no change to > > the poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() function, which as noted above, > > must continue to use the root rcu_node structure's ->gp_seq field. > > This is of course an asymmetry between these two functions, but is an > > asymmetry that is absolutely required for correct operation. It is a > > common human tendency to greatly value symmetry, and sometimes symmetry > > is a wonderful thing. Other times, symmetry results in poor performance. > > But in this case, symmetry is just plain wrong. > > > > Nevertheless, the asymmetry does require an additional adjustment. > > It is possible for get_state_synchronize_rcu_full() to see a given > > grace period as having started, but for an immediately following > > poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() to see it as having not yet started. > > Given the current rcu_seq_done_exact() implementation, this will > > result in a false-positive indication that the grace period is done > > from poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full(). This is dealt with by making > > rcu_seq_done_exact() reach back three grace periods rather than just > > two of them. > > > > Although this fixes 91a967fd6934 ("rcu: Add full-sized polling for > > get_completed*() and poll_state*()"), it is not clear that it is worth > > backporting this commit. First, it took me many weeks to convince > > rcutorture to reproduce this more frequently than once per year. Second, > > this cannot be reproduced at all without frequent CPU-hotplug operations, > > as in waiting all of 50 milliseconds from the end of the previous > > operation until starting the next one. Third, the TREE03.boot settings > > cause multi-millisecond delays during RCU grace-period initialization, > > which greatly increase the probability of the above sequence of events. > > (Don't do this in production workloads!) Fourth, extremely heavy use of > > get_state_synchronize_rcu_full() and/or poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() > > is required to reproduce this, and as of v6.12, only kfree_rcu() uses it, > > and even then not particularly heavily. > > I'm wondering, what prevents us from removing rcu_state.gp_seq and rely only > on > the root node for the global state ? One scenario comes to mind immediately. There may be others. Suppose we were running with default configuration on a system with "only" eight CPUs. Then there is only the one rcu_node structure, which is both root and leaf. Without rcu_state.gp_seq, there would be no way to communicate the beginning of the grace period to get_state_synchronize_rcu_full() without also allowing quiescent states to be reported. There would thus be no time in which to check for newly onlined/offlined CPUs. Thanx, Paul