On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:01:07 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:19:30 MST, Matthew Wilcox said: > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 06:04:25PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Theoretically, at least. Sometimes, in the real world, other constraints > > > enter into it... > > > > So you're saying that you can't find reliable ways to reproduce problems > > on demand? Those are some of the lower quality bug reports, so I don't > > think we're losing much by having you not report them. > > I'm sure that *everybody* on this list would *love* to know how you find > a reliable way to reproduce all the bugs that start off with "after X days of > uptime". But when you're chasing what might be a race condition with a > very small timing hole, you may need an event to happen several million times > before the accumulated chance of hitting it becomes appreciable. >
I must say that the number of bugs which actually go away when the user stops using nvidia/fglrx/ndiswrapper/etc is a small minority. And you can usually tell beforehand too: if the user reports bad_page warnings or pte table scroggage or whatever and they're using nvidia I just hit 'd'. But people who think that removing the nvidia driver will magically fix that khubd-got-stuck-in-D-state bug are urinating up an incline. Facts: - lots of people use nvidia/etc - most bugs they report aren't caused by nvidia/etc - we need lots of testers draw you own conclusions. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
