On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 09:44:23AM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote: > > > On 2/19/2021 7:53 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 07:05:41AM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 2/19/2021 12:25 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > >>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 12:16:50PM -0800, Scott Branden wrote: > >>>> On 2021-02-18 10:36 a.m., Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 07:20:50PM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote: > >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 06:53:56PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 09:21:13AM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote: > >>>>>>>> As a company, we are most likely shooting ourselves in the foot by > >>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>> having a point of coordination with the Linux Foundation and key > >>>>>>>> people > >>>>>>>> like you, Greg and other participants in the stable kernel. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What does the LF have to do with this? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We are here, on the mailing lists, working with everyone. Just test > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> -rc releases we make and let us know if they work or not for you, it's > >>>>>>> not a lot of "coordination" needed at all. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Otherwise, if no one is saying that they are going to need these for 6 > >>>>>>> years and are willing to use it in their project (i.e. and test it), > >>>>>>> there's no need for us to maintain it for that long, right? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Greg, please remember I expressed I really need them for slightly more > >>>>>> than > >>>>>> 3 years (say 3.5-4) :-) I'm fine with helping a bit more as time > >>>>>> permits if > >>>>>> this saves me from having to take over these kernels after you, like > >>>>>> in the > >>>>>> past, but I cannot engage on the regularity of my availability. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ok, great! > >>>>> > >>>>> That's one person/company saying they can help out (along with what CIP > >>>>> has been stating.) > >>>>> > >>>>> What about others? Broadcom started this conversation, odd that they > >>>>> don't seem to want to help out :) > >>>> Greg, I'm sorry but I'm not in a position to provide such a commitment. > >>> > >>> Ok, who at Broadcom do I need to talk to to get that type of commitment? > >> > >> I am not sure if I was too subtle before, we (Broadcom) cannot give you > >> an unified voice to speak with because we are divided in silos/business > >> units that make their independent decisions. > > > > That's fine, I'm totally used to that, large (and even small) companies > > always have different groups with different roadmaps and policies. > > > >> The group I work in (STB/CM, different from Scott's) is committed to > >> using the 5.10 kernel for 6 years and that is a decision that has been > >> taken. > > > > Great! Will you all be testing the -rc releases and letting me know how > > they work for your systems? > > Yes I will, can you add me to your CC list for the stable candidates? > That helps me not having to dig for those announcements specifically.
Now added. Of course _after_ I just sent out a round of stable -rc releases, sorry about that :( greg k-h
