On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 01:03:49PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 03:18:34PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > People report that utime and stime from /proc/<pid>/stat become very wrong
> > when the numbers are big enough. In particular, the monitored application
> > can run all the time in user-space but only stime grows.
> > 
> > This is because scale_stime() is very inaccurate. It tries to minimize the
> > relative error, but the absolute error can be huge.
> > 
> > Andrew wrote the test-case:
> > 
> >     int main(int argc, char **argv)
> >     {
> >         struct task_cputime c;
> >         struct prev_cputime p;
> >         u64 st, pst, cst;
> >         u64 ut, put, cut;
> >         u64 x;
> >         int i = -1; // one step not printed
> > 
> >         if (argc != 2)
> >         {
> >             printf("usage: %s <start_in_seconds>\n", argv[0]);
> >             return 1;
> >         }
> >         x = strtoull(argv[1], NULL, 0) * SEC;
> >         printf("start=%lld\n", x);
> > 
> >         p.stime = 0;
> >         p.utime = 0;
> > 
> >         while (i++ < NSTEPS)
> >         {
> >             x += STEP;
> >             c.stime = x;
> >             c.utime = x;
> >             c.sum_exec_runtime = x + x;
> >             pst = cputime_to_clock_t(p.stime);
> >             put = cputime_to_clock_t(p.utime);
> >             cputime_adjust(&c, &p, &ut, &st);
> >             cst = cputime_to_clock_t(st);
> >             cut = cputime_to_clock_t(ut);
> >             if (i)
> >                 printf("ut(diff)/st(diff): %20lld (%4lld)  %20lld 
> > (%4lld)\n",
> >                     cut, cut - put, cst, cst - pst);
> >         }
> >     }
> > 
> > For example,
> > 
> >     $ ./stime 300000
> >     start=300000000000000
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300009124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300011124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300013124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300015124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300017124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300019124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300021124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300023124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300025124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300027124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299994875 (   0)             300029124 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299996875 (2000)             300029124 (  
> >  0)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            299998875 (2000)             300029124 (  
> >  0)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300000875 (2000)             300029124 (  
> >  0)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300002875 (2000)             300029124 (  
> >  0)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300004875 (2000)             300029124 (  
> >  0)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300006875 (2000)             300029124 (  
> >  0)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300008875 (2000)             300029124 (  
> >  0)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300010875 (2000)             300029124 (  
> >  0)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300012055 (1180)             300029944 ( 
> > 820)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300012055 (   0)             300031944 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300012055 (   0)             300033944 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300012055 (   0)             300035944 
> > (2000)
> >     ut(diff)/st(diff):            300012055 (   0)             300037944 
> > (2000)
> > 
> > shows the problem even when sum_exec_runtime is not that big: 300000 secs.
> > 
> > The new implementation of scale_stime() does the additional div64_u64_rem()
> > in a loop but see the comment, as long it is used by cputime_adjust() this
> > can happen only once.
> 
> That only shows something after long long staring :/ There's no words on
> what the output actually means or what would've been expected.
> 
> Also, your example is incomplete; the below is a test for scale_stime();
> from this we can see that the division results in too large a number,
> but, important for our use-case in cputime_adjust(), it is a step
> function (due to loss in precision) and for every plateau we shift
> runtime into the wrong bucket.

But I'm still confused, since in the long run, it should still end up
with a proportionally divided user/system, irrespective of some short
term wobblies.

So please, better articulate the problem.

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