On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:47:19AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> remaining question Will had was whether it makes sense to do the
> condition checks before doing the actual store, to avoid having a time
> window where the refcount assumes its illegal value. Since arm64 does
> not have memory operands, the instruction count wouldn't change, but
> it will definitely result in a performance hit on out-of-order CPUs.

What do the races end up looking like? Is it possible to have two
threads ordered in a way that a second thread could _un_saturate a
counter?

CPU 1                   CPU 2
inc()
  load INT_MAX-1
  about to overflow?
  yes
                        dec()
                          load INT_MAX-1
  set to INT_MAX
                          set to INT_MAX-2

Or would you use the same INT_MIN/2 saturation point done on x86?

As for performance, it should be easy to measure with the LKDTM test
to find out exactly the differences.

-- 
Kees Cook

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