On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 09:39:36AM +0200, Jes Sorensen wrote: > James Bottomley wrote: > >On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 17:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>The term "posted DMA" is used to describe this behavior in the Altix > >>Device Driver Writer's Guide, but it may be confusing things here. > >>Maybe a better term will suggest itself if I can clarify.... > > > >OK, but posted DMA has a pretty specific meaning in terms of PCI, hence > >the confusion. > > Maybe it would be more better to refer to this as 'out of order DMA'? > > >>On Altix, DMA from a device isn't guaranteed to arrive in host memory > >>in the order it was sent from the device. This reordering can happen > >>in the NUMA interconnect (it's specifically not a PCI reordering.) > > > >This is mmiowb and read_relaxed() again, isn't it? > > I believe it's the same problem, except this time it's when exposing > structures to userland.
Actually, it's a different problem, but with a similar cause. mmiowb() is for the case PIO (or MMIO) write order from two different CPUs can invert somewhere in the NL fabric. read_relaxed() is a performance optimization to avoid the flush that's necessary to avoid inversion in order between a PIO (or MMIO) read and a DMA write. What Arthur's trying to do here is avoid inversion in the order of two DMA writes. jeremy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/