People wrote: > >> I believe the users who say their apps really do get paged back in > >> though, so suspect that's not the case. > > > > Stopping the bush-circumference beating, I do not. -ck (and gentoo) have > > this massive Calimero thing going among their users where people are > > much less interested in technology than in how the nasty big kernel > > meanies are keeping them down (*). > > I think the problem is elsewhere. Users don't say: "My apps get paged > back in." They say: "My system is more responsive". They really don't > care *why* the reaction to a mouse click that takes three seconds with > a mainline kernel is instantaneous with -ck. Nasty big kernel meanies, > OTOH, want to understand *why* a patch helps in order to decide whether > it is really a good idea to merge it. So you've got a bunch of patches > (aka -ck) which visibly improve the overall responsiveness of a desktop > system, but apparently no one can conclusively explain why or how they > achieve that, and therefore they cannot be merged into mainline. > > I don't have a solution to that dilemma either.
IMHO, what everybody agrees on, is that swap-prefetch has a positive effect in some cases, and nobody can prove an adverse effect (excluding power consumption). The reason for this positive effect is also crystal clear: It prefetches from swap on idle into free memory, ie: it doesn't force anybody out, and they are the first to be dropped without further swap-out, which sounds really smart. Conclusion: Either prove swap-prefetch is broken, or get this merged quick. Thanks! -- Al - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
