Keith Owens wrote: > Linus has spoken, it is an error for user space applications to > include kernel headers. Even modutils does not include > linux/module.h, instead it has a portable (2.0 through 2.4) local > definition of struct module. Oh my. This isn't clear to the part-time kernel hacker; to install [...]linux/include/linux in /usr/include/linux implies that those headers can and should be used in user-space. I've already done this several times, in order to use kernel structures from user space. Whoops :-) Perhaps the header files that are intended to be used only within the kernel tree could be moved to a seperate directory, and then not installed in /usr/include. Obviously 2.5 material, if Linus is so inclined. I would rather a build break when what's defined in a kernel header file gets changed (such as a critical structure, or the like) and further maintenance of the user-space utilities is needed; a "heads-up" to the maintainer if nothing else. The recent episode with klogd is a fine example of how well that would work. If klogd had its own copies of headers and built fine, we all would quite possibly still not know about the inconsistency. -Glen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/