Hi! > > > +The kernel exported sysfs exports internal kernel implementation-details > > > +and depends on internal kernel structures and layout. It is agreed upon > > > +by the kernel developers that the Linux kernel does not provide a stable > > > +internal API. As sysfs is a direct export of kernel internal > > > +structures, the sysfs interface can not provide a stable interface > > > eighter, > > > +it may always change along with internal kernel changes. > > > > It is also agreed upon by the kernel developers that the Linux kernel > > does have a stable user<->kernel API... so we have a small problem > > here. > > I agree, that is why we have described the proper ways to use /sys in a > manner that is acceptable to future changes in it. > > > Maybe solution is to declare /sys unstable, but... perhaps /sys can > > stop mirroring internal structures? I do not think we should codify > > our failure to keep /sys stable here. > > I think that /sys is to valuable to say it can just never be used by > userspace programs. With these suggestions, do you see any problems > with any potential future changes in the layout that you can come up > with?
I'm afraid that userland programmers just will not read/follow this... and we will not know. [Perhaps CONFIG_STRESS_SYSFS_PARSERS would be useful? Move stuff randomly to expose broken /sys users?] Then, we'll get binary-only applications working okay relying on specific /sys structure, and soon, we'll be unable to change /sys. [Perhaps we can make large parts of sysfs superuser-only, so that "normal" application can not rely on it?] Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/