On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > yeah. I think Linux is i think the only OS on the planet that is using > the movb trick for unlock, it even triggered a hardware erratum ;)
I'm pretty sure others do it too. Maybe not on an OS level (but I actually doubt that - I'd be surprised if Windows doesn't do the exact same thing), but I know for a fact that a lot of people in threaded libraries end up depending very much on the "simple store closes a locked section". Just googling for "xchg" "mov" "spinlock" "-linux" shows discussion boards for Windows developers with open-coded spinlocks like int ResourceFlag = 0; // 0=Free, 1=Inuse ... // Wait until we get the resource while(InterlockedExchange(&ResourceFlag, 1) != 0) { Sleep(0); } // Wait a tad // Have the resource ... // do your thing ResourceFlag = 0; // Release the resource and that's definitely Windows code, not some Linux person doing it. And this is from an OS2 forum unsigned owned=0; void request() { while(LockedExchanged(&owned,1)!=0) ; } void release() { owned = 0; } so it's not even something unusual. So while arguably these people don't know (and don't care) about subtle issues like memory ordering, I can *guarantee* that a lot of programs depend on them, even if that dependency may often come from a lack of knowledge, rather than actively understanding what we do like in the Linux kernel community. (And yes, they rely on compilers not reordering either. Tough.) Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/