On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:07:53 +0200, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 13:03:35 +0200 > Petr Mladek <pmla...@suse.com> wrote: > > > I find it a bit confusing that "quiet" would mean something different > > on different systems. > > I disagree. "quiet" to me is for people that really don't care to see > anything from the kernel except for real issues that they need to > report. The first thing that I do, and many other kernel developers I > know, when installing a new distro, is to remove the "quiet" from the > command line. Because *I* care about the output. > > > > > > Why did not you use loglevel=<whatever_you_need> instead of "quiet"? > > > > Alternative solution would be to add "silent" or so to calm down > > everything. But I am afraid that any change in this area would > > just create a mess similar to grep -s and -q options. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > Petr > > > > PS: I will not block it if Steven and Sergey are fine with this. But > > I want to be sure that they considered the above views. It looked like > > a no-brainer to me at the beginning. I even pushed this to printk.git. > > But the pushing gave me some more time to think about it... > > I prefer this patch over adding yet another kernel command line command > that will just add to the confusion. I can imagine people saying > "what's the difference between 'quiet' and 'silent'?". I would. > > I think having it as a config option is the perfect solution. I imagine > that as soon as Red Hat changes the meaning of "quiet" so will all the > other distros.
Yeah, SUSE has gathered a pile of such bug reports and complaints from customers, too, so we'd happily follow that :) thanks, Takashi