Ingo Molnar writes: > * Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > However, since the signing is an automated process it cannot >> > generate a "new" work - at least, not under the laws of the US - so >> > the signature itself cannot have a copyright at all. > [...] >> >> I do not suggest that copyright subsists in the signature or in the >> signing key. Whether it does is irrelevant to the signing key being >> part of the source code (when the signature is needed for the binary >> to work properly). > > it is very much relevant. By admitting that the key is not part of the > "work", you have lost all moral basis to claim control over it.
I have not admitted any such thing. I have said the key and signature do not have separate copyright protection. Variables named "i" in a file are not protected by copyright, but they are very much part of the source code in that file. >> Similarly, copyright might not subsist in a simple linker script -- >> its content being determined by the operating system and perhaps the >> rest of the program's source code -- but under the GPL, the linker >> script would be part of the source code for a compiled version. > > the linker script is still part of the whole work though - even if that > particular element might not be copyrightable in isolation. Likewise, > the kernel contains code that is in the public domain - to which > copyright protection does not extend either. But you cannot argue that > the Tivo 'key' is part of the whole work. It is part of the _hardware_. > The Tivo box is a compilation (at most a collection) of multiple works, > and allowing the GPL to jump over derivation/modification lines is > wrong. The GPLv2 certain doesnt do that land-grab. Where in the Tivo hardware is the signing key? There is a related key in the hardware, but that one is not used to generate an integral part of the kernel binary. Michael Poole - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/