* Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 06:05:31PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Note that there is somewhat of a fuzzy detail regarding AMD CPUs which are 
> > marked 
> > as 'Meltdown safe': should an explicit request to turn on PTI be honored by 
> > the 
> > kernel? Should that be some sort of separate 'force PTI on' attribute?
> 
> AMD should not have FEATURE_PTI enabled, and thus not end up in any code
> that cares about TIF_NOPTI.

I know, this is the status quo.

Nevertheless:

 - if someone disbelieves AMD's claims and wants to force-enable it, should it 
be 
   possible without patching the kernel?

 - or if someone wants to test it on AMD to increase test coverage. pti=on will 
   already be force-enable it on AMD CPUs.

Likewise, there's the counter part on the app level PTI disabling/enabling 
ABI functionality as well:

 - should there be a way for sysadmins to force PTI enabled, even on apps that 
   want to turn it off?

 - should there be a way for sysadmins to force PTI disabled, even for apps 
that 
   want to turn it on?

If we decide that we want to allow fine-grained, per app control of PTI, then 
all 
of these look valid scenarios to me.

Thanks,

        Ingo

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