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> Torvalds
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> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] add %pX specifier
> 
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Tobin C. Harding <m...@tobin.cc> wrote:
> >
> > This patch is a softer version of Linus' suggestion because it does
> > not change the behaviour of the %p specifier. I don't see the benefit
> > in making such a breaking change without addressing the issue of %x (and I
> don't the balls to right now).
> 
> The thing is, this continues to have the exact same issue that %pK has
> - because it is opt-in, effectively nobody will actually use it.
> 
> That's why I would suggest that if we do this way, we really change %p and %pa
> to use the hashed value, to convert *everybody*. And then people who have a
> good reason to actually expose the pointer have to do the extra work and opt
> out.

Yes we cannot make this opt in or there is really no point in doing it. %pK and 
mistakes
got us here to this point. I see there is multiple threads, this getting really 
fun to follow.

> 
>                   Linus

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