On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 21:06 +1100, Con Kolivas wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 20:39, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Mike Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I just retested with the encoders at nice 0, and the x/gforce combo is
> > > terrible. [...]
> >
> > ok. So nice levels had nothing to do with it - it's some other
> > regression somewhere. How does the vanilla scheduler cope with the
> > exactly same workload? I.e. could you describe the 'delta' difference in
> > behavior - because the delta is what we are interested in mostly, the
> > 'absolute' behavior alone is not sufficient. Something like:
> >
> > - on scheduler foo, under this workload, the CPU hogs steal 70% CPU
> > time and the resulting desktop experience is 'choppy': mouse pointer
> > is laggy and audio skips.
> >
> > - on scheduler bar, under this workload, the CPU hogs are at 40%
> > CPU time and the desktop experience is smooth.
> >
> > things like that - we really need to be able to see the delta.
>
> I only find a slowdown, no choppiness, no audio stutter (it would be
> extremely
> hard to make audio stutter in this design without i/o starvation or something
> along those lines). The number difference in cpu percentage I've already
> given on the previous email. The graphics driver does feature in this test
> case as well so others' mileage may vary. Mike said it was terrible.
My first test run with lame at nice 0 was truly horrid, but has _not_
repeated, so disregard that as an anomaly. For the most part, it is as
you say, things just get slower with load, any load. I definitely am
seeing lurchiness which is not present in mainline. No audio problems
with either kernel.
> > > [...] Funny thing though, x/gforce isn't as badly affected with a
> > > kernel build. Any build is quite noticable, but even at -j8, the
> > > effect doen't seem to be (very brief test warning applies) as bad as
> > > with only the two encoders running. That seems quite odd.
> >
> > likewise, how does the RSDL kernel build behavior compare to the vanilla
> > scheduler's behavior? (what happens in one that doesnt happen in the
> > other, etc.)
>
> Kernel compiles seem similar till the jobs get above about 3 where rsdl gets
> slower but still smooth. Audio is basically unaffected either way.
It seems to be a plain linear slowdown. The lurchiness I'm experiencing
varies in intensity, and is impossible to quantify. I see neither
lurchiness nor slowdown in mainline through -j8.
> Don't forget all the rest of the cases people have posted.
Absolutely, all test results count.
-Mike
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