On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 01:48:16AM +0100, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > There have been various projects attempting to provide resource > > management support in Linux, including CKRM/Resource Groups and UBC. > > let me note here, once again, that you forgot Linux-VServer > which does quite non-intrusive resource management ...
Sorry, not intentionally. Maybe it slipped because I haven't seen much res mgmt related patches from Linux Vserver on lkml recently. Note that I -did- talk about VServer at one point in past (http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/06/15/112)! > the basic 'context' (pid space) is the grouping mechanism > we use for resource management too so tasks sharing the same nsproxy->pid_ns is the fundamental unit of resource management (as far as vserver/container goes)? > > As you know, the introduction of 'struct container' was objected > > to and was felt redundant as a means to group tasks. Thats where I > > took a shot at converting over Paul Menage's patch to avoid 'struct > > container' abstraction and insead work with 'struct nsproxy'. > > which IMHO isn't a step in the right direction, as > you will need to handle different nsproxies within > the same 'resource container' (see previous email) Isn't that made simple because of the fact that we have pointers to namespace objects (and not actual objects themselves) in nsproxy? I mean, all that is required to manage multiple nsproxy's is to have the pointer to the same resource object in all of them. In system call terms, if someone does a unshare of uts namespace, he will get into a new nsproxy object sure (which has a pointer to the new uts namespace) but the new nsproxy object will still be pointing to the old resource controlling objects. > > When we support task movement across resource classes, we need to find a > > nsproxy which has the right combination of resource classes that the > > task's nsproxy can be hooked to. > > no, not necessarily, we can simply create a new one > and give it the proper resource or whatever-spaces That would be the simplest, agreeably. But not optimal in terms of storage? Pls note that task-movement can be not-so-infrequent (in other words, frequent) in context of non-container workload management. > why is the filesystem approach so favored for this > kind of manipulations? > > IMHO it is one of the worst interfaces I can imagine > (to move tasks between spaces and/or assign resources) > but yes, I'm aware that filesystems are 'in' nowadays Ease of use maybe. Scripts can be more readily used with a fs-based interface. -- Regards, vatsa - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/