Hi Adrian ! On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 08:56:02PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: (...) > > Real problem is that we can expect several "sound does not work anymore" > > because people doing "make oldconfig" will get no warning at all about > > the removed options. Remember people complaining about keyboard not working > > ? > > There already were two kernel releases where people had to say > explicitely "yes" to "Obsolete OSS drivers" with a quite clear help text > for getting these OSS drivers.
To be fair, I did not notice it, but I think that people who will miss it will have skipped 2 versions, in which case they can reasonably expect enough changes to be very careful when updating their config. > And did you complain when all the SATA options were renamed in 2.6.19 > without any warnings in previous kernels and far more user-visible > effects than some obsolete OSS drivers (and no driver for your hard > disk even prevents booting)? No, because I have no SATA disk ;-) > Or about the mess with the mes with the netfilter options when upgrading > from 2.6.19 to 2.6.20? Yes I've noticed this one, and at least it was clearly visible ! > If you didn't, this is the wrong patch to start complaining about... Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. I just realized from previous post that options disappearing produce no warning on make oldconfig, and that it is easy to get trapped, even though there's nothing harmful. > > Perhaps the real problem is more Kconfig than OSS, but it would be fine if > > we found a solution to enumerate the list of options which have been removed > > when they do their make oldconfig. > > Printing won't help - there are two many options (some even not user > visible) that disappear with each kernel release. Sometimes I do a diff between old and new config, and I do not notice that many changes. So maybe a simple report at the end saying "The following options have been removed" may catch people's attention when it lists something which looks like a driver they know they use. Anyway, I don't have time to propose something in this area, and I know that talking is cheap, showing the code is another matter. Cheers, Willy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
