> >As for why common abstractions like file are a good thing, think about why > >having "/dev/null" is cleaner that having a special plug DEVNULL_FD fd > >value to be plugged everywhere, > > This is a stupid comparaison. By your logic we should also have /dev/stdin, > /dev/stdout and /dev/stderr.
Bzzt, wrong. We have them. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -al /dev/std* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Nov 12 2003 /dev/stderr -> fd/2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Nov 12 2003 /dev/stdin -> fd/0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Nov 12 2003 /dev/stdout -> fd/1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -al /proc/self/fd total 0 dr-x------ 2 pavel users 0 Mar 6 09:18 . dr-xr-xr-x 4 pavel users 0 Mar 6 09:18 .. lrwx------ 1 pavel users 64 Mar 6 09:18 0 -> /dev/ttyp2 lrwx------ 1 pavel users 64 Mar 6 09:18 1 -> /dev/ttyp2 lrwx------ 1 pavel users 64 Mar 6 09:18 2 -> /dev/ttyp2 lr-x------ 1 pavel users 64 Mar 6 09:18 3 -> /proc/2299/fd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > >But here the list could be almost endless. > >And please don't start the, they don't scale or they need heavy file > >binding tossfeast. They scale as well as the interface that will receive > >them (poll, select, epoll). Heavy file binding what? 100 or so bytes for > >the struct file? How many signal/timer fd are you gonna have? Like 100K? > >Really moot argument when opposed to the benefit of being compatible with > >existing POSIX interfaces and being more Unix friendly. > > So why the HELL don't we have those yet? Why haven't you designed > epoll with those in mind? Why don't you back your claims with patches? > (I'm not a kernel developer.) Either stop flaming kernel developers or become one. It is that simple. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/