On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 10:18:42AM +1100, Nigel Cunningham wrote: [snip] > > Hmm sorry, but we don't have the same usages of notebooks. For no reason > > would I keep documents open, for two reasons : > > > > - when I shutdown my notebook, it is to move from one customer to > > home/company/another customer. There's no related work anyway, the > > network will have changed and I'll have to switch nearly all of my > > apps anyway. So using suspend just to save one reboot is not worth > > it (for me) IMHO. > > The network configuration utilities can help there. In addition, > Suspend2 preserves the commandline you used to boot with > (/sys/power/suspend2/resume_commandline), so you can use a combination > of slightly varying grub entries (I have one for not starting ath0 and > one for starting it) and scripts to do different things in different > environments. The resume_commandline is writable, so can be cleared > after usage if there were anything sensitive there.
OK, I see there are features to make life easier when I decide to use suspend. But it looks like that using suspend is the goal and dealing with the constraints is a lot of work and I'm still far from being convinced that it would provide me advantage. > > - I would certainly not keep open documents that are on crypted FS > > while I travel. Otherwise, it would be a total waste of time to > > enter my passphrase everytime I need to access them ! Some might > > argue that it would save me a lot of time, providing me with the > > ability to type my passphrase only once a month, but that's not > > what I'm looking for :-) > > People are using Suspend2 with encryption today (I'm not sure about > uswsusp). Some of them have set things up so you need to use a > passphrase or usb key to resume, and the image itself is of course > encrypted too. Unless I'm mistaken, I have to type the passphrase twice then : - once at suspend - once at resume which is once more per "boot" than what I'm doing on loop-aes. > You could also close the document and not the app. Or both and just get > the benefit of having the app in page cache post-resume. I'm not much convinced by the advantage of reading 500 MB on disk to have emacs in hot cache :-) > > I can barely understand why one would prefer to suspend when the notebook > > does not move at all, but under the conditions above, advantages are really > > faint. I now realize that people I work with also face the same constraints, > > which can explain why they don't use such features either, whatever the OS. > > I guess the thing you're highlighting to me is the lack of awareness of > the options that are available. Maybe I need to work harder at making > people aware of the possible usage scenarios! :) You're certainly right. I really think that this feature is clearly not for me but it's more featureful than I initially thought, and I could encourage some people to give it a try. Best regards, Willy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/