> Unfortunately there's no standard way to do host side cable detect on > nForce systems without going through ACPI. It's done through a GPIO > pin. Board vendors are free to reallocate which GPIO pin is used for > this feature.
Want to know how to make incompatibility? "Ask me How!(tm)". Regarding ACPI, please see Linus at first, <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/487507> And then, are you sure MSACPI will be compatible with any competitor in near future? [] > The *real* solution is to use the BIOS ACPI _GTM _STM methods for this. > Then you can remove all chipset specific knowledge from the IDE driver. > This is what the MS driver does on Windows, so you know it's received a > lot of testing from NVIDIA and board vendors. Do you mean: with all possible crutches? I'm very upset, that hardware nvidia-lego forces system software (and programmers) to know "unfortunately no standard" ways of desinging things... One read-only-for-os, hardware set bit in kind of control register isn't possible at all, tphu. BDU market (BDU=brain dead user), which Microsoft dominates, makes BDD (... designers ;) > -Allen No, you don't. Do you know, why top posting is bad? Hi. > From: "Allen Martin" > Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel,gmane.linux.ide > Subject: RE: Nvidia cable detection problems (was [PATCH] amd74xx: don't > configure udma mode higher than BIOS did) > Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/489859> > Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:08:03 -0800 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:09 AM >> To: Allen Martin >> Subject: Fwd: Nvidia cable detection problems (was [PATCH] >> amd74xx: don't configure udma mode higher than BIOS did) >> >> Hi Allen, >> >> Would it be possible to get some help on this issue? >> >> Thanks, >> Bart >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Tejun Heo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Feb 5, 2007 3:50 PM >> Subject: Re: Nvidia cable detection problems (was [PATCH] amd74xx: >> don't configure udma mode higher than BIOS did) >> To: Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, >> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> >> >> Alan wrote: >> [--snip--] >> >> CK804 IDE, at least mine, reports 80c in a lot of cases where it >> >> shouldn't. I dunno the reason but it also makes drives confused >> >> about cable type. Maybe it has the wrong capacitor >> attached or something. >> >> This is A8N-E from ASUS, probably one of the popular ones >> using nf4. >> > >> > I take it this was how you came to find every cable related >> bug while >> > trying to work out what was going on ? >> >> Yeap, pretty much. I thought fixing drive side cable >> detection would fix it, but hell no. >> >> >> When that happens, libata EH does its job and slows the >> interface to >> >> udma33 after quite a few error messages. On IDE, if this happens, >> >> the drive is put into PIO mode making the machine painful to use. >> > >> > No the IDE layer does DMA changedown fine, well apart from all the >> > error/timer races in the old IDE code. >> >> I dunno. It always ended up in PIO mode in my case. I can >> post the log if necessary. >> >> [--snip--] >> >> I agree with you that this is a hack and ugly as hell. I >> don't like >> >> it either, but it solves an existing problem which could have and >> >> possibly will hit many users. So, I think this problem should at >> >> least be verified. If it's just my BIOS/motherboard >> that's crazy, I >> >> have no problem forgetting about this. >> > >> > It certainly seems to be Nvidia specific, so perhaps Nvidia can >> > provide more details on the Nforce4 cable detection ? As >> with a lot of >> > Nvidia stuff there was much reverse engineering involved in the >> > original code base. >> >> Hmmm... Anyone happen to have working nvidia contact? >> >> > And if its a specific board or couple of boards then we >> should perhaps >> > use DMI to match them specifically. >> > >> >> So, anyone with CK804 (a.k.a NF4) up for some testing? >> > >> > If it still goes I've got a rather iffy NF3 but not an NF4 handy. >> >> Yeah, please. If I connect a hdd at the end of 40c cable and >> leaving the middle connector empty, the 80c bit is always one >> and the drive says it's 80c cable while the BIOS configured >> mode is correctly udma33. This is the same for SAMSUNG >> SP0802N, Maxtor 91301U3 and HITACHI_DK23BA-20. >> >> -- >> tejun >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain > confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution > is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the > sender by > reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wha? Cool! ____ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/