On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 16 December 2006 05:28, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >On Saturday, 16 December 2006 07:43, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> [...]
> >I think the most important problem with the binary-only drivers is that
> > we can't support their users _at_ _all_, but some of them expect us to
> > support them somehow.
> >
> >So, why don't we make an official statement, like something that will
> > appear on the front page of www.kernel.org, that the users of
> > binary-only drivers will never get any support from us? That would
> > make things crystal clear.
>
> I disagree with this, to the extent that I perceive this business of no
> support for a 'tainted' kernel to be almost in the same category as
> saying that if we configure and build our own kernels, then we are alone
> and you don't want to hear about it.
>
> Yes, there is a rather large difference in actual fact, but if I come to
There's indeed a big difference. That's why people ask for your .config and for
the changes you made to your kernel (especially in cases like `Hi, the kernel
crashes with my newly written driver').
> the list with a firewire or usb problem, we should be capable of
> divorcing the fact that I may also be using an ati or nvidia supplied
> driver from the firewire or usb problem at hand.
You can divorce it by not loading the binary-only driver(s) and reproducing the
problem.
> I am not in fact using the ati driver with my 9200SE, as the in-kernel as
> its plenty good enough for that I do, but that's the point. To
> automaticly deny supplying what might be helpfull suggestions just
> because the user has a 'tainted' kernel strikes me as being pretty darned
> hypocritical, particularly when the user states he has reverted but this
> instant problem persists.
Then the kernel is no longer tainted, right?
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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