> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Masters [mailto:j...@redhat.com]
> Sent: 22 December 2015 16:45
> To: Gabriele Paoloni; Arnd Bergmann
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> Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 22/23] pci, acpi: Match PCI config space
> accessors against platfrom specific quirks.
> 
> On 12/22/2015 11:36 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On 12/22/2015 04:29 AM, Gabriele Paoloni wrote:
> >> Hi Jon, thanks for replying
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Jon Masters [mailto:j...@redhat.com]
> >>> Sent: 21 December 2015 23:11
> >>> To: Arnd Bergmann
> >>> Cc: Gabriele Paoloni; Tomasz Nowicki; bhelg...@google.com;
> >>> will.dea...@arm.com; catalin.mari...@arm.com; r...@rjwysocki.net;
> >>> hanjun....@linaro.org; lorenzo.pieral...@arm.com;
> >>> ok...@codeaurora.org; jiang....@linux.intel.com;
> >>> stefano.stabell...@eu.citrix.com; robert.rich...@caviumnetworks.com;
> >>> m...@semihalf.com; liviu.du...@arm.com; dda...@caviumnetworks.com;
> >>> t...@linutronix.de; Wangyijing; suravee.suthikulpa...@amd.com;
> >>> msal...@redhat.com; linux- p...@vger.kernel.org;
> >>> linux-arm-ker...@lists.infradead.org; linux- a...@vger.kernel.org;
> >>> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linaro- a...@lists.linaro.org;
> >>> jchan...@broadcom.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 22/23] pci, acpi: Match PCI config space
> >>> accessors against platfrom specific quirks.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for top-posting. A quick note that SMBIOS3 is required by
> SBBR
> >>> so it can be presumed that compliant platforms will provide quirks
> via DMI.
> >>
> >> Ok so you completely clarified my question 1). Many Thanks for this
> >
> > No problem. One of the (many) reasons I pushed for requiring
> > SMBIOS/DMI in SBBR (I was lead author of one of the early drafts of
> > that document) was to make the experience ultimately equivalent
> across architectures.
> > We already know how to do quirks and handle platform deviations, and
> > the major Operating System vendors did not want to reinvent the wheel.
> 
> Additional: it is clear that more prescription is required to get the
> vendors onto the bandwagon that we have with other architectures (e.g.
> that other one). So there will be a Red Hat "ARM server whitepaper"
> coming in the early new year that will include the kind of "server 101"
> material we want to make sure people know. Things like making sure you
> implement and test PCIe correctly, handle backward compatibility (you
> will build hardware in the future that runs my existing OS release),
> design the hardware to allow for workarounds later, etc. I expect some
> other Operating System vendors to be involved in reviewing that.
> 
> Ultimately my objective is to make this whole thing dull and boring.
> You will get RHEL(SA)/upstream kernels and it will either boot or it
> will not. If it does not boot, vendor X screwed up their hardware. We
> know this story, it's been this way for over a decade already, and that
> is exactly how it is going to be with ARM servers shortly.

Ok got it.

Many Thanks

Gab

> 
> Jon.

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