On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Larry McVoy wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 11:23:30AM +0200, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
> > Well, I know quite well what this can bring us - with precise profiling
> > we could see the exact geometry of the drive
> 
> LMbench has had something which does this for years.  Look at 
> 
>       http://www.bitmover.com/bw.gif
>       http://www.bitmover.com/seek.gif

Great, but that was via a file system.

> The first shows you zone bandwidths, the second shows you a precise profile
> of the access times; you can get everything you might want from that.
> For example, the time quoted by all the drive people is 1/3 in from the 
> left, at the bottom of the curve - a fairly misleading number if you ask
> me.

> Bingo.  Screwing around with the elevator is in general a waste of time,
> but it is a rite of passage for all I/O people.  I did it a long time 

Well let me drown!

> ago and learned an important lesson: if your file system is good enough 
> (and most are) there is almost nothing that can be done to improve 
> performance - the file system has done all the work already.  You're
> welcome to argue that point, but please do so with traces of a real
> system - not with your opinion.  My opinion used to be the opposite
> and the traces moved me to this opinion.  

Expand 'traces' ... O-SCOPE analyizer?

How can LMbench access things that I can but a FS can not?

Andre Hedrick
The Linux ATA/IDE guy

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