Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:00:13 +1200 From: Chris Wedgwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Right now as I see it (pretending everything is black and white); you, Dave, Linus and a few other people[1] are more than happy with debugging aids as they exist right now in a stock kernel. However, there are many many other people far less talented than yourselves and for use less capable people having a compile time options of IKD or something might really be of use.... I think what it comes down to is that the folks who know the tree the best and do the most work/fixing in it, think the debugging stuff should remain a seperate patch. We believe that it doesn't belong in the main source tree mainly for two reasons: 1) It is clutter. I don't want to see the debugging/debugger code when most of the time it serves no purpose. NOTE: This is different than "BUG()" and "ASSERT()" which serve a different purpose becuase they not only act as a consistency check, but they also _document_ how the author of the code believed the world around it must behave :-) 2) It is hoped that because it isn't the default, some new people will take the quantum leap to actually try debugging using the best debugger any of us have, our brains, instead of relying on automated tools. Later, David S. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Daniel Phillips
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Martin Dalecki
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Jeff V. Merkey
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Ingo Molnar
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Jeff V. Merkey
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Richard Gooch
- kernel debugging Elmer Joandi
- Re: kernel debugging Martin Dalecki
- from binary towards source level scalability Elmer Joandi
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Ingo Molnar
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... David S. Miller
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... David S. Miller
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Kai Henningsen
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... yodaiken
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Daniel Phillips
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Richard Gooch
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Mike Galbraith
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Richard Gooch
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... David S. Miller
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Alan Cox
- Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M... Damien Miller