On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 11:26:09PM +1100, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >  Any suggestions to reduce those even further
> > more than welcome, as I suppose this might cause some Multicast UDP
> > packets to get dropped.  :-/
> 
> Yes, you'll be dropping packets.

Hmm...  Not good.

> >  Would using SCSI instead of IDE help, do you think ?
> 
> It depends upon the SCSI driver.  I haven't measured kernel interrupt
> latencies for a while.  Back in March, IDE beat the pants off SCSI in
> this regard.
> 
> The IDE system was UDMA-66 (using hdparm -u1 -d1).  The SCSI sytem was
> from Advansys (I don't know how good this driver is).  The numbers are
> at http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/intlat/intlat-disk.html.  This
> was for the 2.3.99 kernel.
> 
>       IDE: 27 usecs
>       SCSI: 42 usecs
> 
> Still, these aren't large enough to explain this behaviour.

What we're seeing is we stress the hd's so much the whole system becomes
terribly slow whenever a disk access is needed.  Simply logging in on the
console takes ages then.  Perhaps this could explain those buffer
overruns ?

> Are you sending much output to the console?  You'll see from Doug
> Gilbert's numbers that the console driver can block interrupts for a
> millisecond.  Try running X, or otherwise prevent things from writing to
> the console.

Nope.  Just X clients running on a remote X server.

> The sensible alternative, of course, is to use a multicast filter.  The
> 3c905B/C does have a 256 slot hash filter.  Unfortunately (and
> uncharacteristically), 3com forgot to document it.  However it _is_
> implemented in 3com's own GPL'ed driver.  This driver is bundled in
> RedHat 6.x and is available at
> http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linux.htm . It's worth
> visiting that site just for the amusement factor of having to click on
> "I agree" for the license.  It's the GPL!

Thanks for the info.  So the standard driver uses a software filter for
multicasts then ?  What does that mean ?  Not promiscuous mode, I suppose ?

> >  The 2.2.17 driver still seems to have a few bugs though: we get messages
> > like: "Too much work in interrupt, status e401".  This seems to happen
> > more on machines with RX buffer overruns.
> 
> hmm..  Yes, something is wrong.  I see this could perhaps silently
> happen if the driver is hopelessly out of memory.  And this would
> explain the failure you saw in the 2.2.16 driver.  It had an
> Rx-stops-working-on-OOM bug.
> 
> Could you please, before doing anything else, see if
> 
>       echo '512 1024 1536' > /proc/sys/vm/freepages
> 
> makes a difference?

I've been using '512 1024 2048' for the last series of tests.  I suppose
that's ok as well, or isn't it ?

                                                        Arnaud

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