> Excuse me?  How the hell do you expect them to "clean up their act" when
> their "dialup" users are the problem?  Are you gonna scan 250,000 machines
> to make sure they aren't running SMTP servers?  Trap all port 25 traffic?

FreeServe in the UK have over 3 million dialup users and no spam problem.

> It's the same problem EVERY ISP has.  RR is just higher profile because
> of the number of users.  Cable/DSL are unlike traditional dialup in that
> you are always connected as long as the machine is on.

Then they need more competant admins. It isnt _hard_ to transproxy outgoing
smtp traffic via a spamtrapper that checks for valid src/destination and
headers.

Alan

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