Thank you all. I guess that is what I'll do. I'll configure my existing router as a bridge and buy this one for the rest:
http://goo.gl/ZPjdKZ Amichai. 2015-04-13 10:05 GMT+03:00 <mata...@foss.co.il>: > Use this list for modems and routers available in the free market: > http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/VDSL_Router/VDSL_Router.htm > > In addition, I would like to second what E.S. Rosenberg said, I think you > can still get this one: > http://www.bezeq.co.il/media/Products/Wireless_Support/pdf/vdsl_1.pdf > > They even have a guide in their site how to configure it as bridge: > http://www.bezeq.co.il/media/Products/Wireless_Support/pdf/vdsl_bridge.pdf > > after you get this in place, a good, open wrt supported router is just > easy as pie and very powerful. > > April 13 2015 9:43 AM, linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il wrote: > > Send Linux-il mailing list submissions to > > linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > linux-il-ow...@cs.huji.ac.il > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Linux-il digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. 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Re: Bezeq Ruter (Moish) > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:17:12 +0300 > > From: Amichai Rotman <amic...@iglu.org.il> > > To: Linux-IL <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il> > > Subject: Bezeq Ruter > > Message-ID: > > <CAD_ZK64VdT7d_G_L2XRHipJbA2gHSt==hyhgsehf+k8uehy...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hello all, > > > > I have a Netgear 2200v2_64 router I got from Bezeq about two years ago. > > > > I finished paying for it and I don't like the idea it uns Bezeq's > firmware. > > > > I want to flash an open source firmware on it, but I can't figure out > where > > to get it. it seems this specific model is manufactured especially for > > Bezeq, since it isn't on the list of models on Netgear's site. > > > > Can anyone point me to a guide to downloading and flashing an open source > > firmware suitable for this model or, on the other hand, recommend an > > inexpensive replacement that runs open source firmware? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Amichai > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > < > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il/attachments/20150412/8dda5cef/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:55:44 +0300 > > From: "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il> > > To: Amichai Rotman <amic...@iglu.org.il> > > Cc: Linux-IL <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il> > > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter > > Message-ID: > > <cahtx_bnvyequgwvt_uva3muezzymsxeouzgtazfbjn8pp+k...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Have you tried here: > > http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/dgn2200 > > > > 2015-04-12 22:17 GMT+03:00 Amichai Rotman <amic...@iglu.org.il>: > > > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I have a Netgear 2200v2_64 router I got from Bezeq about two years ago. > >> > >> I finished paying for it and I don't like the idea it uns Bezeq's > firmware. > >> > >> I want to flash an open source firmware on it, but I can't figure out > where > >> to get it. it seems this specific model is manufactured especially for > >> Bezeq, since it isn't on the list of models on Netgear's site. > >> > >> Can anyone point me to a guide to downloading and flashing an open > source > >> firmware suitable for this model or, on the other hand, recommend an > >> inexpensive replacement that runs open source firmware? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Amichai > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Linux-il mailing list > >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 23:10:41 +0300 > > From: "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il> > > To: Amichai Rotman <amic...@iglu.org.il> > > Cc: Linux-IL <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il> > > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter > > Message-ID: > > <cahtx_bmr_jid38aqoxre6xlx3-gmsmuvw1d7rkce_j-ftbe...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > v2 may not be supported... > > > > Personally I always insist on Bezeq giving me their simple modem and > > use a decent router of my choosing (obviously vetted for OpenWRT > > support and specs) for WiFi etc (the modem ends up being a bridge > > device about whose fw etc I don't care as much). > > > > 2015-04-12 22:55 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il>: > > > >> Have you tried here: > >> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/dgn2200 > >> > >> 2015-04-12 22:17 GMT+03:00 Amichai Rotman <amic...@iglu.org.il>: > >>> Hello all, > >>> > >>> I have a Netgear 2200v2_64 router I got from Bezeq about two years ago. > >>> > >>> I finished paying for it and I don't like the idea it uns Bezeq's > firmware. > >>> > >>> I want to flash an open source firmware on it, but I can't figure out > where > >>> to get it. it seems this specific model is manufactured especially for > >>> Bezeq, since it isn't on the list of models on Netgear's site. > >>> > >>> Can anyone point me to a guide to downloading and flashing an open > source > >>> firmware suitable for this model or, on the other hand, recommend an > >>> inexpensive replacement that runs open source firmware? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Amichai > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Linux-il mailing list > >>> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 23:15:55 +0300 (IDT) > > From: Geoff Shang <ge...@quitelikely.com> > > To: Linux-IL <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il> > > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter > > Message-ID: <alpine.deb.2.02.1504122314420.3...@voldemort.home> > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: > > > >> Personally I always insist on Bezeq giving me their simple modem and > >> use a decent router of my choosing (obviously vetted for OpenWRT > >> support and specs) for WiFi etc (the modem ends up being a bridge > >> device about whose fw etc I don't care as much). > > > > Ha! I didn't know you could do this. Typical that I find out 6 weeks > > before I leave the country. :) > > > > for the benefit of anyone else who didn't know, please tel more. > > > > Geoff. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:18:15 +0300 > > From: "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il> > > To: Geoff Shang <ge...@quitelikely.com> > > Cc: Linux-IL <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il> > > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter > > Message-ID: > > <CAHTx_BMawyntPByEd0tBK6bh4ZBpJV3P1A=_cpt4xzoeizg...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > In addition to the "fancy" (read crappy) wireless routers that Bezeq > > will always try to offer you to lease/buy/get/whatever the latest fad > > is, they also have simple modems. > > Really these are bridge routers with one ethernet port and one DSL > > port, also running Linux, you can use them as router and create a DMZ > > between your wireless router and the bridge, though I don't recommend > > that because then you: > > - can't just drop in a replacement when they break down > > - are relying on the bridges' firmware for security on your DMZ > > > > They have currently 2 models as far as I can tell: > > - (Rotal) RTA 1320+ > > - D-Link DSL-25xx (newer, haven't seen very often) > > > > Bezeq does not like giving these devices out most likely because it > > prevents them from having a Bezeq_free network at your address, the > > last time I had to replace my modem they told me that they actually > > repair them and aren't making/buying new ones (which makes sense for > > the rta1320 which is old but supports up to 24M). > > The fact that they are repairing does seem to be starting to lead to > > failures happing more often recently... > > It also prevents them from trouble shooting your network since the > > most they will have access to is the bridge whereas they generally > > have remote access to the wireless-routers (you often don't even get > > full root/admin on the router). > > > > To me using these devices only has advantages: > > - cost less then the "fancy" modem/routers. > > - allows me full control over my network infrastructure. > > - no Bezeq network freeloading on my DSL connection > > - no Bezeq access to my home network > > - allows me to easily upgrade my wireless router if/when I want some > > newer technology/toy. > > > > BTW: It is of course also possible to use a Bezeq wireless router > > together with your own wireless router either in a DMZ like setup or > > even as a bridge (though that takes some real effort), but that seems > > like a major overkill and a waste of money..... > > > > HTH, > > Eliyahu - ????? > > > > 2015-04-12 23:15 GMT+03:00 Geoff Shang <ge...@quitelikely.com>: > > > >> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: > >> > >>> Personally I always insist on Bezeq giving me their simple modem and > >>> use a decent router of my choosing (obviously vetted for OpenWRT > >>> support and specs) for WiFi etc (the modem ends up being a bridge > >>> device about whose fw etc I don't care as much). > >> > >> Ha! I didn't know you could do this. Typical that I find out 6 weeks > >> before I leave the country. :) > >> > >> for the benefit of anyone else who didn't know, please tel more. > >> > >> Geoff. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Linux-il mailing list > >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:29:07 +1000 > > From: Amos Shapira <amos.shap...@gmail.com> > > To: "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il> > > Cc: Linux-IL <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il> > > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter > > Message-ID: > > <caf9n_wvxjs65xgd18dw7jhwsvr2jpumvg00wrl05rzsm-gt...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > I wonder - do you have to get the modem from Bezeq? Can't you buy > anything > > compatible on the free market? > > > > On 13 April 2015 at 16:18, E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il> > wrote: > > > >> In addition to the "fancy" (read crappy) wireless routers that Bezeq > >> will always try to offer you to lease/buy/get/whatever the latest fad > >> is, they also have simple modems. > >> Really these are bridge routers with one ethernet port and one DSL > >> port, also running Linux, you can use them as router and create a DMZ > >> between your wireless router and the bridge, though I don't recommend > >> that because then you: > >> - can't just drop in a replacement when they break down > >> - are relying on the bridges' firmware for security on your DMZ > >> > >> They have currently 2 models as far as I can tell: > >> - (Rotal) RTA 1320+ > >> - D-Link DSL-25xx (newer, haven't seen very often) > >> > >> Bezeq does not like giving these devices out most likely because it > >> prevents them from having a Bezeq_free network at your address, the > >> last time I had to replace my modem they told me that they actually > >> repair them and aren't making/buying new ones (which makes sense for > >> the rta1320 which is old but supports up to 24M). > >> The fact that they are repairing does seem to be starting to lead to > >> failures happing more often recently... > >> It also prevents them from trouble shooting your network since the > >> most they will have access to is the bridge whereas they generally > >> have remote access to the wireless-routers (you often don't even get > >> full root/admin on the router). > >> > >> To me using these devices only has advantages: > >> - cost less then the "fancy" modem/routers. > >> - allows me full control over my network infrastructure. > >> - no Bezeq network freeloading on my DSL connection > >> - no Bezeq access to my home network > >> - allows me to easily upgrade my wireless router if/when I want some > >> newer technology/toy. > >> > >> BTW: It is of course also possible to use a Bezeq wireless router > >> together with your own wireless router either in a DMZ like setup or > >> even as a bridge (though that takes some real effort), but that seems > >> like a major overkill and a waste of money..... > >> > >> HTH, > >> Eliyahu - ????? > >> > >> 2015-04-12 23:15 GMT+03:00 Geoff Shang <ge...@quitelikely.com>: > >>> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: > >>> > >>>> Personally I always insist on Bezeq giving me their simple modem and > >>>> use a decent router of my choosing (obviously vetted for OpenWRT > >>>> support and specs) for WiFi etc (the modem ends up being a bridge > >>>> device about whose fw etc I don't care as much). > >>> > >>> > >>> Ha! I didn't know you could do this. Typical that I find out 6 weeks > >>> before I leave the country. :) > >>> > >>> for the benefit of anyone else who didn't know, please tel more. > >>> > >>> Geoff. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Linux-il mailing list > >>> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Linux-il mailing list > >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > -- > > <http://au.linkedin.com/in/gliderflyer> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > < > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il/attachments/20150413/348ffb6e/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:43:03 +0300 > > From: Moish <mo...@mln.co.il> > > To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter > > Message-ID: <552b6577.20...@mln.co.il> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > < > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il/attachments/20150413/6e8d5a03/attachment.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Linux-il Digest, Vol 76, Issue 6 > > *************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >
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