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On 11 July 2014 16:34, Shlomi Fish <shlo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Dan, > > thanks for clarifying your position. Let me reply. > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Dan Yasny <dya...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> 1. What makes you feel this is "spam"? I don't see it as unoslicited >>> bulk E-mail. >>> >> >> Any email sent to a list is "bulk". And I didn't, in any way, solicit >> this Emma Watson bs, nor your pleas for funding or support. >> > > In this case, I may well as argue that a job offer for a Java Enterprise > software developer with 5 years of experience in Java sent to this list is > spam as well, because: 1. It's bulk. 2. I didn't solicit it nor am > interested in it. But I don't argue that is the case. > > > >> The very least you could do, out of common courtesy (I really hope you >> know what that is) is mark your email as offtopic, you know, like everyone >> in every other LUG does, with the [OT] marker in the subject? >> > > I don't feel it is offtopic. The fictional interview highlights several > real problems with the software industry. Like I said earlier, some people > get a knee-jerk reaction to fiction, but fiction is not only often an > effective tool as writing an essay, but often superior. A lot of ink was > spilled about how the concept of an Abrahamic God was harmful until this > delivered a swift deathblow to it - > http://www.roflcat.com/ceiling-cat-is-watching-you-masturbate . > Furthermore, there was a significant risk that the USA will get carried > away into unnecessary paranoia during the late 60s until Sesame Street > started airing as a show depicting a happy, safe, carefree street where > children live and have fun together with adults, animated animals and even > cute furry monsters (!!). > > Nevertheless, I am willing to mark it as "[Slightly OT]". > > >> This way I, and anyone else not interested in anything but the technology >> this list is about, can filter it out, and let you keep spamming those who >> are for some reason interested. >> >> >>> >>> 2. What makes you feel it kills a good and useful mailing list? >>> >> >> As soon as a list(/community/forum/etc) turns into an offtopic promoting >> medium, the useful and productive community members leave. I've managed >> enough forums to see that happen. >> >> > > There may be a more significant risk of this list becoming overly dry, too > inbred (see > http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=larry-wall-all-truth-is-gods-truh > ), and too routine. We need to constantly seek external influences: from > other operating systems, from other fields of knowledge, from popular and > not so popular culture, from linguistics, history and humanities, from > ancient sources, etc. > > Otherwise we risk stagnation. My post was not off-topic, just made use of > some popular culture metaphors. Do you agree? > > >> >>> Vague complaints are vague. ;-) >>> >>> >> Nothing is vague here. This is off topic, your stories aren't >> interesting, aren't funny and would not belong in a LUG, even if they were. >> > > First of all you're stating these things as facts instead of saying "I > don't find them interesting, funny, etc." or "IMHO, they are non funny". > Like someone once told me "In my opinion, it's a fact.". You'll evoke much > less antagonism if you follow this guideline. > > For the record, quite a few people told me that they liked one or more of > the things I wrote, and if you ask me - if one person besides me enjoyed my > work - it was a spectacular success: > > https://plus.google.com/+ShlomiFish/posts/UdiPzsSGc66 > > I don't mind writing a study / midrash of the Emma Watson interview story > for those who are not familiar with its sources and subtleties, but many > people liked it even without that. > > ------------ > > I hope I made myself clear. Please reply to the list if you have any > further objections or comments. > > Best regards, > > -- Shlomi Fish > > -- > ------------------------------------------ > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > Chuck Norris helps the gods that help themselves. > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > -- [image: View my profile on LinkedIn] <http://www.linkedin.com/in/gliderflyer>
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