On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:16 AM, E.S. Rosenberg <e...@g.jct.ac.il> wrote:
> 2013/7/7 Ori Idan <o...@helicontech.co.il>: > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson > > <geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On 7/7/2013 1:20 AM, Micha Feigin wrote: > >> > >>> On the other hand as memory serves, you can run your books using an > open > >>> source software and then submit the printouts to a certified accounted > >>> to make a legal report. You may need to work with generic receipts in > >>> parallel though. > >> > >> > >> > >> As it was explained to me by my accountant, the tax authorities don't > care > >> how you keep YOUR books, they only care that the submissions to them are > >> done properly. > >> > >> Properly means that an accepted (certified?) program is used and that > the > >> data was entered by a level 3 (starts at 1) certified bookkeeper or a > >> certified public accountant (CPA). > >> > >> In real terms this means for small business the data is sent to your > >> accountant and they (or their certified bookkeeper) enters it into their > >> program on their computer and submits that to the tax authorities. > >> > >> At that point the responsibility for the data being entered properly and > >> the program being a legal one is borne by your accountant and not you. > >> > >> IMHO this is preferable because my experience in being an independent > >> consultant, the owner of a small consulting firm, and involved with > startups > >> over various times, is that any money spent paying a professional to > keep > >> your books and prepare your tax returns is well worth it. YMMV. > >> > >> Most accountants will accept data in XLS (Excel spreadsheet format), so > >> you can enter the data in an Excel spreadsheet and send them the file. > >> > >> I assume that an Excel spreadsheet created and maintained by OpenOffice > >> would be acceptable to them. > >> > >> Geoff. > >> > >> > > Tax authorities has nothing against OSS software and they already gave > > approval to OSS software twice (Drorit, my software and it's fork Linet, > > both GPL). > > The real truth is that they only ask to see several things: > > 1. Invoices can not be deleted and numbered sequentially without > repeating. > > 2. No simple ability to delete transcations > > 3. Output of what they call Open Format files, these are files with all > > transactions in a special format they require. > > > > That is all, no question about OSS or not. > > There was a debate last time they registered Linet and they agreed to > > register it so they have nothing against OSS. > > GNUCASH can not be registered since it can not output Open Format files. > > > > Note that I have good experience and knowledge about the subject as I > make a > > living out of Accounting software. > > I have written several software packages and also consult business about > the > > same. > > Both drorit and linet run server side, gnucash runs on my computer and > the tax authority has no way of knowing whether I doctored my version > of gnucash. > Even with drorit and linet, will the tax authority accept it if I > install it on my server (and as a result have full control over all > the demands you listed) or did they only approve the version running > on company X's servers? > Logically it seems only the second would be the case... > Linet does not run on a server it is run locally. The request is that you can not change or delete transactions from the software itself or by a normal user. There is no request to not be able to change at all. They accept that knowledgeable user with root privileges on the system can delete transactions. -- Ori Idan
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