On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Nadav Har'El <n...@math.technion.ac.il>wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2010, Erez D wrote about "Re: XMoveWindow()": > > > when i move the window to pos(x,y) using XMoveWindow(), it moves but > > > positions the WM's window (e.g. the titlebar topleft) at (x,y) instead > of > > > my window. > > What you're doing is the right thing. XMoveWindow() doesn't actually do > anything, it just sends a ConfigureRequest event to the parent, namely the > window manager, which actually does the move, but this is how it's supposed > to be. > > Can you explain why what you're seeing is a bad thing? E.g., when a user > does > "xterm -geometry +0+0", he usually would like the new window *including* > whatever titlebar it has to start on the top-left corner. I don't see any > reason why the coordinates you give should not include the titlebar... > > > I care about the position and size of the client area, not the gross > window. > > Now it depends on which wm i use, or if i use one at all. > > Who is "I" here? An ordinary user doesn't even know that there is "the > client > area" and the "gross winodw" - all he sees is one square and wants to > control > its location; If he chooses location +0+0 (top-left corner), he probably > wants > the top-left of the titlebar to be there, not the "client area" (which > would > mean that the titlebar would be outside the visible area of the screen). > > If "I" is some computer program who wants to play tricks with window > locations, > then please don't. Window location is for the user to control, not > automatic > programs. I *HATE* it when programs thinks they know me and automatically > start in, say, the bottom left corner of the screen. This could be an > option (traditionally, -geometry) but should not be automatic - if anybody > should automate the window placement it should be the window manager, not > individual applications. > > > when i write a program, i expect to get the same behaviour which doesn't depend on the WM. however: Traditional window managers reparent the window, and add the titlebar to the parent. compize on the other hand doesn't reparent the window, so the behaviour is different. i woudld expext the folowing line: XTranslateCoordinates(...,win,root,0,0, &x, &y, ...) ; XMoveWIndow(win,x,y) to do nothing. however, it does move the window, by the size of the titlebar ... > -- > Nadav Har'El | Wednesday, Mar 3 2010, 17 Adar > 5770 > n...@math.technion.ac.il > |----------------------------------------- > Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Someone offered you a cute little > quote > http://nadav.harel.org.il |for your signature? JUST SAY NO! >
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