On Thursday 08 October 2009, shimi wrote: > The right way to do it is not with an Access Point. Someone needs to > "multiplex" your connection to multiple devices. Since you have just > one external IP address, someone needs to "share" it between your > multiple machines and do "magic" that makes it (multiple unicast > machines between one unicast address) work. We call that magic-maker a > "NAT router" (which basically every home router does).
Yeah, I realize that I need NAT (or PAT in Cisco terms), but I thought (I admit I didn't check) that the AP might do the NAT. > So what you > need is an Ethernet router (with an Ethernet port on his WAN port). Thing is, I was wondering why I need a router. I don't need it to do any routing decisions (unless I want to share files between connected PCs, which I don't). I do need NAT, but I kind of thought an AP would do that. > > Then I would suggest that you ditch the "dialing" part of the loop. If > you don't, your router must support L2TP protocol to work with all > ISPs. That doesn't always work well, even if supported. The preferred > solution, IMHO, is to ask your ISP to move you to a dialer-less > connection (which they dub "MPLS") and then just set the router to > "obtain IP from DHCP" - and you never have problems again. Does anyone want to comment on these two possibities - L2TP on the router versus MPLS ? Do common routers (eg. Edimax BR6204WG) support L2TP ? Is my ISP (HOT) likely to give me a MPLS connection without fee/hassle ? Are there any other solutions ? > It also > gives you pretty much a static IP, as long as you don't turn off your > equipment for a long period. > > Also I don't think you can buy a router with a built in cable port in > Israel... I haven't seen such in stores... and even if you do, HOT > will have to agree to connect it to their network (they must put the > MAC address on their systems for this to work...) - which I am really > not sure they would agree. Well if that's the case, I certainly don't want to try replace the "modem" supplied by HOT. > > My 7.4 agorot, > Thanks - worth at least 7.4 agorot ! > -- Shimi > > On 10/8/09, Aharon Schkolnik <aschkol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I am currently connected to the Internet via a HOT cable connection > > using the modem supplied by them and a single ethernet connection to > > my PC. I bring up the connection using a script which uses pptp. The > > PC also boots XP which connects using whatever program HOT supplied. > > > > I now need to ADD a wireless connection in addition to the fixed > > ethernet connection (for a laptop). For my taste, the "right" thing to > > do is to attach a wireless access point to the HOT modem. Since the > > modem has only a single ethernet connection, the access point would > > have to include an ethernet connection for the PC in addition to the > > ethernet connection to the HOT modem. The only problem with this > > solution is the cost - an ACCESS POINT D-LINK DAP-1160 costs over 300 > > NIS. > > > > My question is: should I consider buying a modem with > > cable+wireless+ethernet and using it instead of the HOT modem ? Will I > > save significant money ? Will I have trouble if I need support from > > HOT ? What modems work with HOT ? Are there problems setting them up > > to work to support Linux and XP ? > > > > > > TIA. > > > > -- > > The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik > > and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | > > is great, and the Master of the house is | aschkol...@gmail.com > > impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | 054 3344135 > -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is | aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 | 054 3344135 _______________________________________________ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il