On Mon, Oct 06, 2008, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote about "Re: [YBA] Logical VS Visual Text Selection": > We are talking about a very lengthy focus group and marketing research > effort, not about springing a new feature on the unsuspecting bidi public. > > B.C. Beck at Sun and Doug Felt at IBM implemented bidi supoprt in the ICU > and Java Swing respectively based on requirements provided by me and Isam > Abuteir. That was a four-year effort.
Even more than four years ;-) Eight (!) years ago I was in a multilingualization conference in Tsukuba, Japan, presenting Ivrix. Douglas Felt was also there, and presented the issues and solutions of bidi support in Java. One of the issues he discussed, which really sank into my memory, was the issue of caret movement and logical vs. visual selection. You can see his presentation in http://www.m17n.org/conference/m17n2000_all_but_registration/proceedings/felt/index.htm Another presentation was given there on a similar topic by Eli Zaretskii who focused, believe it or not, on the MS-DOS EinsteinWriter (yes, this editor was an antique even at that time ;-)), and how well it treated (in his opinion) cursor movement. I'm not sure Eli's opinions were the same as Doug's: http://www.m17n.org/conference/m17n2000_all_but_registration/proceedings/zaretskii/m17n2000.ps.gz -- Nadav Har'El | Tuesday, Oct 7 2008, 9 Tishri 5769 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |----------------------------------------- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |If you notice this notice, you'll notice http://nadav.harel.org.il |it's not worth noticing but is noticable. ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
