On Friday, 12 בSeptember 2008, Amos Shapira wrote:
> Frankly, how do you expect hackers to sniff your password on the wire
> between you and the server?
> (maybe on shared cable segment?)
> I'm not saying that I'd feel comfortable sending password in the
> clear, but what REALLY are the practical risks?
 * You assume I needed it from home.

 * The issue actually came up when I prepared for connecting
   to my mailbox remotely (from Mexico City -- do you want to count
   the number of networks from there to bezeqint?)

 * The link from their main page to their webmail service points to
   an http connection... (and hosted on a different domain, perfect
   for phishing people passwords).

 * After jumping through their support lines (which, btw, were accessible
   and polite) they found out that they *do* have https webmail service.
   There is just no link to it from their site.

 * I thanked them for that and adviced to fix the link so naive people
   won't be trapped by mistake -- just checked now -- the same...

Under these conditions, do you think I'm talking about some theoretical
minor risk? Or can we start betting on the number of stolen passwords
from traveling salesmans/pointy-haired-bosses/etc?

> On 9/12/08, Oron Peled <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday, 11 בSeptember 2008, Noam Rathaus wrote:
> >> The credentials for the SMTP were the same as that for the POP3 account
> >> they
> >> used, and of course the same ones for the ADSL login (without the @Bezint
> >> thingy).
> >
> > That's very wise.... especially without any SSL/TLS support ;-)
> >
> >  * I had a discussion with them about it a few months ago.
> >  * I would be more than happy to know they bothered doing something
> >    about it.
> >  * One of their support people even "explained" to me how using
> >    ftp for uploading my home page is a security feature because
> >    the password is hidden in the protocol (it wasn't April 1st).
> >
> > [not that the other existing ISP's are better]
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
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> > that would also stop you from doing clever things."
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