On Saturday 12 July 2008, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> On Saturday 12 July 2008, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > 2008/7/12 Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Well, the beauty of MediaWiki being free-and-open-source-software
> > > (FOSS) is that you are actually *able to do it* and *allowed to do
> > > that*. If you cannot
> >
> > Sure.
>
> OK.
>
> > > do it yourself, you can always convince your work to hire someone to do
> > > it for you, raise a bug bounty, etc. It may actually be cheaper than
> > > shelling money for a proprietary solution which may turn out to have
> > > other bugs, mis-features, missing features, etc. and that may be
> > > discontinued or not keep up with the times.
> >
> > You know the old saying about the difference between theory and
> > practice? "In theory, it's practical. In practice - it's only a
> > theory".
>
> Interesting variation. I'm familiar with the Unix fortune version:
>
> {{{{{{{{{
> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.  In
> practice, there is.
> }}}}}}}}}
>
> > Translating your suggestion to specific steps, it would involve us in
> > having to define a project of what we want to have been done, how to
> > do it, tender for contractors, interview them to decide whether they
> > are fit for the job, allocate time to track the project etc. etc. and
> > all this without the certainty of it even getting something useful at
> > the end of this tunnel.
>
> Ouch! Sounds like a lot of red tape. How big is your company?
>
> > Compare this to just researching existing products, comparing their
> > existing merits, price, requirements and fitness for our needs, and
> > just buying them.
>
> I see.
>
> > All this for something which is not the core of our business, just
> > another tool to help us run the main task (which is to sell totally
> > different software and services).
>
> OK.
>
> > > For the record, I am now between jobs and am willing to contribute to
> > > open-source (or non-open-source projects) for the right price. Other
> > > people may also be available. I have a working knowledge of PHP and am
> > > familiar with using MediaWiki as a user and to customise it. I'm sure
> > > that you can also find other people who can do it.
> >
> > Good luck with your job hunt.
>
> Actually, I'm not looking for a job right now. I'm taking some time to
> rest. In the meanwhile I have several commercial *and* open-source ideas
> I'm contemplating to pursue.
>
> > Maybe you can do this stuff for
> > MediaWiki to pumper your resume :).
>
> There are several things that bother me about MediaWiki and I've considered
> contributing to it. Not sure if the issues you have with it are at the top
> of my list, but I may get to what I need. To paraphrase on what I heard:
> "if you know a tool well enough, then you can tell that it sucks.".
>
> In any case, I don't like things to work on pro-bono, but rather time and
                       ^^^^
"like" should be "lack" of course.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

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