On Friday 06 June 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/6/6 Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > As I wrote on: > > > > http://community.livejournal.com/shlomif_tech/11379.html > > > > Ubuntu is dying as most of the bigwigs in its online community are > > infested with ego, ping-pong legitimate complaints to oblivion, and > > refuse to take responsibility for their own problems. The #ubunutu* > > channels suffer from fragmentation, over-specialisation, an obseesion > > with supposedly staying on-topic, and from ops who abuse their power. All > > of these are very unconventional on Freenode where they are hosted. > > > > This is despite the fact that I heard several horror stories about the > > fact that Ubuntu Hardy keeps hanging, and that it seems to be one of the > > worst Ubuntu versions in recent years. > > > > If the Ubuntu community is unable to effectively take responsiblity for > > their actions and do a serious soul-searching, then I fear (and hope) > > that people will flee out of Ubuntu like mice out of a sinking ship. > > > > At a time like this, I'm glad I stayed with Mandriva. > > > > Regards, > > > > Shlomi Fish >
Hi Dotan. > Thanks for your input, Shlomi. I move to Ubuntu from Fedora on my > daily driver a little over a year ago. I find it to 'just work' with > all my laptop's hardware, including the card reader, wifi, bluetooth, > media buttons, x1400 graphics card and 1680x1050 monitor. Yes, Ubuntu has good hardware support. So does Mandriva, which is what I'm using. I've encountered several bugs, but I'm on Mandriva Cooker, which is the Mandriva bleeding edge, and so it's not really an indication of anything. > The support > on the mailing lists is very good, though I will admit not on the same > professional level as on the Fedora (or Debian) lists. OK. My impression from the mailing lists of popular distributions is that they tend to be very high-volume. I'm subscribed to cooker and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I need gmail.com to properly handle them. Of course, even gmail.com could not properly cope with the volume of LKML. > > Although I do prefer the philosophy and professionalism of Fedora, and > to a lesser extent Debian, I find that with Ubuntu I don't need to > babysit my software. I can install the OS in less than an hour and > that's it. No week of troubleshooting, no month of ironing out little > details, no living with little bugs for the life of the release. Yes. However, I've ran into a few bugs on Ubuntu Gutsy back when I used it at work. I started with one distribution before the long-term support. I also didn't like Gutsy as much as I liked Mandriva Cooker. For example, aptitude's output was very verbose with the informative line in the middle. Or Andy Lester's Ack ( http://petdance.com/ack/ ) was not available. And I also found using RPMs, the rpm command and urpmi more intuitive and UNIXy for me than dpkg and its ilk. > I will look through the Ubuntu list for your hanging issue, and I'll > try to shed some light on the problem if I can. > I didn't encounter it myself - Gutsy worked fine for me. But see: * http://meital.blogli.co.il/archives/220 * http://idkn.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/שבוע-עם-arch-linux/ - comment at the top. Regards, Shlomi Fish ----------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Funny Anti-Terrorism Story - http://xrl.us/bjn7t The bad thing about hardware is that it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. The good thing about software is that it's consistent: it always does not work, and it always does not work in exactly the same way. ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
